Ugh. "Utils" and now "problem of voter apathy"? I don't like the way
this thread is heading...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ArmChair List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Hamish
> Barney
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lotteries and elections
>
> In Australia voting is actually compulsory. Failure to vote in an
> election can result in a fine. Voting then becomes very rational. I
> think in many ways this is a good way of getting around the problem of
> voter apathy and the otherwise apparent irrationality of voting.
>
> Hamish
>
> Michael Giesbrecht wrote:
>
> >>From: ArmChair List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >
> > Wei
> >
> >>Dai
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>Why have economists latched onto the idea of "expressive voting",
when
> >
> > a
> >
> >>much simpler explanation is that most apparently irrational voting
> >
> > really
> >
> >>is irrational? Of course "expressive voting" preserves the
assumption
> >
> > of
> >
> >>rationality, but there is still the problem of participation in
> >
> > lotteries
> >
> >>with negative expected payoffs. Is that just to be ignored, or will
> >>someone come up with a theory of "expressive lottery ticket
purchase"?
> >
> >
> > By far, the most common response I get when I mention that one's
> > individual vote does not effect the outcome of an election, is
> > astonished indignation. I am assured that regardless of the (lack
of)
> > effect of my individual vote, voting is an obligation born out of
the
> > principle of reciprocity. We, as individuals, should vote, because
if
> > everybody didn't vote there would be no electoral process. Voting is
> > thus one of many necessary things we should do in order to be a
> > respectable member of the community.
> >
> > By the way, do not attempt to discuss this subject at a cocktail
party
> > with drunken public elementary school teachers. Before you know it,
> > you'll be personally responsible for, not only decline of western
> > civilization, but all various and sundry despotic regimes throughout
the
> > world. It will end with you promising to vote Green in the next, and
all
> > future elections, just to stop the crying.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael Giesbrecht

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