another way to see if there is a correlation between gun ownership and
crimes would be to see if there is any between estimated number (or
percentage) of guns owned "illegally" and crime rates.


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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, david friedman wrote:

> At 10:14 AM +0100 1/19/01, Girard wrote:
> >Why not look at the statistics? Here are some :
> >
> >Percent of households with a handgun:
> >
> >United States   29%
> >Finland          7
> >Germany          7
> >Canada           5
> >Norway           4
> >Europe           4
> >Netherlands      2
> >United Kingdom   1
> >
> >Murders committed with handguns annually:
> >
> >United States   8,915
> >Switzerland        53
> >Sweden             19
> >Canada              8
> >United Kingdom      7
> >
> >Murder rate (per 100,000 people):
> >
> >United States   8.40
> >Canada          5.45
> >Denmark         5.17
> >Germany         4.20
> >Norway          1.99
> >United Kingdom  1.97
> >Sweden          1.73
> >Japan           1.20
> >Finland         0.70
> >
> >Who needs long dissertations to prove that guns kill?
> 
> 
> You might at least notice that you omitted Switzerland from your 
> percent of households list. Given that the figure would have been 
> very high--Swiss adult males from (I think) twenty to forty are 
> required to have firearms in the house as part of their military 
> obligation--you have omitted the most striking piece of contrary 
> evidence from your data.
> 
> That aside, you surely know that correlation isn't causation--a close 
> correlation between handgun ownership and murder rate might mean that 
> in places with high murder rates people buy handguns to protect them. 
> That is one of the reasons why statistics involves more than the sort 
> of casual anecdotal argument you are using.
> -- 
> David Friedman
> Professor of Law
> Santa Clara University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
> 

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