Hi Alex, It seems to me that you do want your students to know that demand curves don't have to slope down and that lowering taxes on a good doesn't have to cause more of the good to be consumed. Even if you don't teach your students the details of income and substitution effects you want them to know that these special cases exist. You might also want to discuss the relative insensitivity of prime age male labor supply to changes in wages in terms of income and substitution effects. That has important implications for tax policy. - - Bill Dickens
William T. Dickens The Brookings Institution 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20036 Phone: (202) 797-6113 FAX: (202) 797-6181 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL IM: wtdickens >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/03 09:34AM >>> So far we have that i. and s. effects are useful to a) teach Marshallian demand b) teach difference between nominal and real income c) students going on to graduate school d) useful but for reasons that can't be remembered! :) e) useful as a hurdle/signal f) not useful at the intermediate/mba level Regarding Marshallian demand this is true but just raises the question what is the use of Marshallian demand at an intermediate level? (Note almost all textbooks discuss i. and s. effects but most do not teach M. demand.) As I said in my post, for welfare analysis, income and substitution effects become important but this is not taught at the I. level. I don't see how i. and s. effects teach nominal and real income but am willing to be enlightened. c) is possible but it means that teaching i. and s. effects is a waste for most students. Surely there are enough useful things to teach that are also difficult? thus i. and s. effects is not needed for the hurdle. Thus the bulk of the posts, and a number I have received offlist, increase in my mind the hypothesis that this material is a waste of time (relative to other things that could be taught). Alex -- Alexander Tabarrok Department of Economics, MSN 1D3 George Mason University Fairfax, VA, 22030 Tel. 703-993-2314 Web Page: http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/ and Director of Research The Independent Institute 100 Swan Way Oakland, CA, 94621 Tel. 510-632-1366