The loop used in Munbe Vaa is much different from the one you have posted. What I think he is referring to is the hip-hop like, clap- like beat that is repeated throughout the song. This one sounds similar but the one A R R has used is similar.
It ain't an offence to use a loop beat as the base of the song. Even Harris Jayaraj is guilty of it -Mazhai Mazhai from Ullam Ketkumae When I say this, you would instantly remember that he had copied Muthu BGM for the starting, but I am referring to the repetitive beat at the back throuhgout the song, also found in another song by another MD -Kadhal Yaanai from Anniyan, Kannum Kannum Nokia from Anniyan This is the worst case of loop usage. The whole song (almost) is made out of club loops and techno loops which I found easily in other songs from other movies and even in ads. Even A R Rahman himself has used a small portion of the loop found in Remo song, in Mayilirage if you listen carefully. So guys, loops are made to add spice to their songs by MD and you see that Munbe Vaa, only the beats are formed by loops. The beautiful Rango Rangoli show's ARR is a gem --- In [email protected], "Sunil VG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. > Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the > attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ > > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3". > > Regards, > Sunil > > On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman > > using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa > > is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so > > many responses.. > > > > On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Are you guys stupid or what??? > > > > > > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use > > > these samplea??? > > > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? > > > > > > When did I said that nobody may use samples? > > > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? > > > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? > > > > > > > > > > > > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e- mail, i > > > didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! > > > > > > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter > > > they are beats or > > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. > > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his > > > music arts." > > > > > > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload > > > the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. > > > > > > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman > > > using samples!!!! READ MY E-MAIL!!!! > > > > > > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If > > > I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! > > > > > > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop > > > Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa > > > is called: Hip Harp. > > > > > > See for yourself. > > > > > > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for > > > you're own. > > > > > > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. > > > > > > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR > > > MUSIC)!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! > > > * > > > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* > > > > > > I agree with Kunal....Would you say that because somebody had the > > > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else > > > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / > > > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good > > > but great. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM > > > Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! > > > > > > People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in > > > their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked > > > without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use > > > it ??? > > > Kunal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=+Re:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21> > > > chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 29, 2007 > > > 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), > > > > > > Hi guys and girls, > > > > > > Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse > > > I'm not the only one who uses these samples. > > > Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop > > > Drum Loops and Samples. > > > > > > I was really glad hearing these awesome samples....till suddenly I > > > heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe > > > Munbe Vaa!!! > > > > > > I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but > > > played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even > > > the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by > > > A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!! > > > > > > I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link > > > where i can upload these files. > > > > > > Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE > > > MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!! > > > > > > I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or > > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. > > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his > > > music arts. > > > > > > Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you > > > are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then > > > give you're opinion. > > > > > > Sorry for my bad English:P > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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