Hi Harsh, Just forgot to add. I may have mis understood you message. Apologies.
regards, S.V.Nagaraj --- In [email protected], harsha vardhan <harshaa_vard...@...> wrote: > > Mr.nagraj, u din't get my point...may be i was not clear...i just meant no > one here wants an ARR composition to be raved...everyone here knows what his > music is and thats just the very reason for all of us being here...letting > others know what u liked in a particular composition would b a better thing > to do on everyones part...and i meant no one is as talented as ARR to bash > the man himself, the person who is exploring new challenges and delivering > something beyond imagination all the time...so there is no way a true music > lover can ever bash Mr.ARR...if he is bashing ,then sorry he has lost his > ears.. > I have no hard feelings for you Mr.nagraj, you are my fellow rahmaniac... > > > > --- On Mon, 5/3/10, raj <arr_naga...@...> wrote: > > From: raj <arr_naga...@...> > Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > /* And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we > all know what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an > ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just > like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions > there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper... > > give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol > > wake up brother(s).. . > > */ > > My point is this. Raving/bashing should addressed and treated in the same > way. And your point me not liking an album is out of topic as I am not > discussing my liking/disliking. Why get personal( my ear,my creative > abilities) on a public forum for expressing a opinion about an album/product? > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, harsha vardhan <harshaa_vardhan@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and > > 'chiggy wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force > > you to love anything...its a conscience thing... > > > if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is > > not your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could > > 've done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than > > the creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding... > > its a film score and it needed music that can enhance the subject within > > certain limitations. .. > > > ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just > > doing what every film is demanding... i don't think he has ever done music > > for the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some > > brilliance at least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at > > least you know that the man himself knows better than what we all know > > ,what he has to deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years... > > > And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all know > > what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an > > ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just > > like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions > > there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper... > > > give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol > > > wake up brother(s).. . > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj <arr_nagaraj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > From: raj <arr_nagaraj@ ...> > > > Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration > > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing > > about it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone > > saying 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is > > unacceptable. Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so > > sensitive in hearing why blue doesn't work for someone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "AJ" <purevibz@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good point, Gomzy. Couldn't have said it better! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzyâ⢠<gomtesh.upadhye@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they > > > > > > > > believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves > > > > first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members > > > > > > > > > are immersed in Raavan and praising it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not > > > > > > > > > just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly > > > > > > > > > songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper > > > > > > > > > differences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically > > > > > > > > > great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to > > > > > > > > > weave the songs as a single fabric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a > > > > > > > > > underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a > > > > > > > > > single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly. > > > > > > > > > Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies > > > > > > > > > of ARR-Mani got discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is > > > > > > > > > gold, back to the basics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was > > > > > > > > > a technically great album having new types of sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan, > > > > > > > > > but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in > > > > > > > > > raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about > > > > > > > > > that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down > > > > > > > > > in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about > > > > > > > > > music, about ARR's music. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody has so far asked "where is ARR's signature in Raavan", the way > > > > > > > > > we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we > > > > > > > > > all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's > > > > > > > > > high expectations after his oscars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations > > > > > > > > > and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget > > > > > > > > > people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should > > > > > > > > > create what his heart says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of > > > > > > > > > people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now. > > > > > > > > > Raavan got released without a word from ARR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had > > > > > > > > > stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations > > > > > > > > > and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become > > > > > > > > > pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan. > > > > > > > > > A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of > > > > > > > > > blue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music > > > > > > > > > explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music > > > > > > > > > when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in > > > > > touch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an > > > > > > > > > album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an > > > > > > > > > experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories, > > > > > > > > > confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that > > > > > > > > > feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition > > > > > > > > > (not the blue style, but the feedback on blue style) to come up with > > > > > > > > > Raavan that has turned out to be abashed heart-stealer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make both > > > > > > > > > the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person liking blue can > > > > > > > > > now like raavan also, and how can a person liking raavan might have > > > > > > > > > liked blue also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations get > > > > > > > > > discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything can't be > > > > > > > > > equally great. Such persons need to individually introspect and find > > > > > > > > > what he stands for and what he doesn't identify with, and then > > > > > > > > > appreciate certain things that he stands for and criticize certain > > > > > > > > > things that he doesn't identify with. People can make out what is > > > > > > > > > forced appreciation and what is undue criticism. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 years > > > > > > > > > ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of oscar > > > > > > > > > aberration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Rawat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > www.gomzyphotograph y.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
