Gopal ji, I'm not trying to give much importance to the debate of new vs seasoned singers myself. In any event, my previous post was specifically drawn to answer Mr. Rawat's contention that younger female singers are at par with the veteran singers.
Without further diverting from the topic, I would like to reiterate that Karthik has done a marvelous job both in Behne de and Usure Pogadhe and he deserves all the accolades and credits for a job well done here. Correct me if I'm wrong but your argument was that Sonu and Sukhwinder are more deserving singers as compared to Karthik and you believe that they would done a better job in Behne De. I, for one find it futile to bring Sonu or Sukhwinder into this picture. Don't get me wrong for I've nothing against these two great singers but if ARR decided to have Karthik's voice in Behne De then I'm very sure he has very good reasons for the well-made decision. For one, there is something very unique about Karthik's voice which makes him stand far apart from his contemporaries. He has a deep voice which he uses with great effectiveness. They touch you soul when sung in the low notes and they give you goose bumps when sung in the high notes. And these qualities are very much apparent and (judging from the lyrics) essential to Behne De and Usure Pogathe. Quote - "My only submission was that perhaps ARR is being overloaded with too many projects (national and international, collabs etc.) and hence the effort to give a song to the most deserving singer (one who is conversant with the genre and language) - is somewhere getting diluted." Perhaps you're giving ARR less credit than he deserves. I don't believe ARR would compromise on the quality of any of his projects in favour for another. Then again, I don't understand how ARR being overloaded with work has anything to do with the selection of singers. In any event, Sonu and Sukhwinder did sing a song each for Raavan. (It was most unfortunate that Sonu's song got axed but that's not the issue here.) My contention is that if ARR had wanted Sonu or Sukhwinder or any other singers to sing Behne De, then he would most certainly have got them to do so. But clearly he wanted to credit Karthik with this number and it's my humble opinion that ARR has made an apt choice here. --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Gopal Anandan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Gopal Anandan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [arr] I feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 5:06 AM Gayathri ji - the debate is not so much about comparing new vs. seasoned singers. We are trying to understand why one version sounds better than the other. One of the reason is also the choice of singers for that genre or type of song and for that particular language. My only submission was that perhaps ARR is being overloaded with too many projects (national and international, collabs etc.) and hence the effort to give a song to the most deserving singer (one who is conversant with the genre and language) - is somewhere getting diluted. ciao / Gopal --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan <gayathri_ck17@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan <gayathri_ck17@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [arr] I feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 3:00 PM Quote "But, Gayatri, if you compare among females, you wouldn't find younger lot of them lacking in any manner from the veterans. ARR has introduced so many female singers,you can name any female singer and find that her first ARR song is great and doesn't give any slightest indications that it could be her first song." To begin with, the number of female singers introduced by ARR is relatively smaller as compared to the male singers. Nevertheless to answer you question, yes, I do feel that singers like Harini, Chinmayee, Reena Bharadwaj etc would take years before they can be compared with the likes of Lata Mangeshkar, Asha, S.Janaki, Chitra, Kavitha Krishnamurthy or Swarnalatha. I'm not saying they're bad, but they still have not captured the versatility nor do they possess the talent that is evident in the latter group of singers. I'm not going to bring Shreya Ghosal or Sadhana Sargam into this argument as they were clearly introduced by other MDs and it took them some time (esp in the case of Sadhana) before they got the oppurtunity to sing under ARR..nevertheless among the list of new singers we have today, I don't think many of them could be called trend-setters or amazing as was the case with the veterans. On further note, how many of the younger lot of singers have sustained in the industry til date? Singers like Anupama and Vasundhra Das did woo the whole world through their debut numbers but frankly speaking, where are they now? Caroline was a one-time wonder, and she was gone before we could determine is she's really Chinese as claimed. Nithyashree is clearly very comfortable with her carnatic numbers while Grammy award winner Thanvi Shah and Sunitha Sarathy have hardly made any impact outside ARR's camp. Need I say more? Again, I reiterate, the new set of singers are definitely promising, nevertheless, it's futile to compare them with the veteran singers. Clearly, talents are there in everyone but it definitely would take years of hard work and determination to reach the standards set by the latter. --- On Wed, 5/26/10, V S Rawat <vsra...@gmail. com> wrote: From: V S Rawat <vsra...@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [arr] I feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 8:55 PM On 5/27/2010 7:40 AM India Time, _Gayathri Chandrakasan_ wrote: > I beg to differ here. I really felt Karthik has done a wonderful job in > Behne De. The song clearly speaks of the protagonist' s passion and > longing...and Karthik managed to voice out these feelings with such > great intensity through his powerful singing. And the way his voice > travels from the low notes to the higher notes with ease...well, I don't > know about you guys, but I can't help feeling mesmerised by his > versatility here. > > On the other hand, I agree that many of the young singers today are no > match to SPB, Hariharan, Udit or Sonu, but then again, how is it fair to > compare the new breed of singers with those of 20-40 years experience in > the field? But, Gayatri, if you compare among females, you wouldn't find younger lot of them lacking in any manner from the veterans. ARR has introduced so many female singers,you can name any female singer and find that her first ARR song is great and doesn't give any slightest indications that it could be her first song. Then, why are male singers not comparable to veteran male singers. > With all due respect, Dr. SPB started of his career through a > rather adequate singing himself. It's only because of his determination, > passion, hardwork and years of training that finally saw him coming up > with such spectacular vocals. And Hariharan was already a trained ghazal > singer and has cut many ghazal albums before he entered the film world. > On the other hand, singers like Benny, Naresh and Javed had nothing > behind their name when they were introduced. Thus, it's still too early > to judge their ability as singers when they are still in the learning > stage. I'm very sure, as time goes by, these singers would be able to > express their true talents to the world. -- Rawat
