The beauty of partitioning is that is can be a transparent method of archiving, esp. since status is typically the method used to archive tickets/requests.
Axton Grams On 5/4/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
** Axton: Partitioning is a fantastic feature and should be employed where it can. However, BMC did not decide to use this feature out of the box. I would help greatly if you could partition a high use form, such as the Help Desk Case, by status. That and a good archiving system is advised. When you have almost 90% of your actions in a form as closed or no longer worked, that is a good time to think about installing or implementing a good archiving system with a good solutions database. James McKenzie L-3 GSI -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 7:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Oracle 9.2.0.5 CBO Not Using Index I can find nothing on the net to confirm your statements. The closest thing I can find that relates to this is the list of the "20 golden rules" of the oracle RBO. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/orsqltunpr/chapter/excerpt.html In this list, bound range and unbound range searches still rank higher than a table scan. I ran into a similar problem as this with the email messages form, where 2m records were sent and < 3000 were error/received/sent. When the email engine executes its query to poll for messages to send, it will not use an index on the status field (using an equal comparison), even though that index narrowed the query to < 50 records out of > 2m records. Don't ask me why, but partitioning the table was the only resolution I could come up with to get the query the email engine issues to use an index. Hopefully the folks at BMC tweaked the next release of their product to use a more structured query that is capable of using indexes on the db's they support. Axton Grams On 5/4/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > Axton: > > That was directly from the PT&T class and was enforced by some basic > ORACLE training that I received. > > Here is gist of the training: > > If the query can be closed end (i.e. equals) then the optimizer will > look to see if the index can be used. This happens at the point where > about eight percent or less of the index entries are pulled back. > > If the query is not closed end (i.e not equals) then the optimizer > will do a full table scan. > So the key here is what is and is not closed end. If the entry has an > equals sign in it like the following: > > 'Status' <= "Pending" the optimizer SHOULD look at the index and see > approximately how many entries would be pulled back. > > 'Status' < "Resolved" SHOULD result in a full table scan. > > The key here is that the data in the field must be highly variable OR > the data is bunched around a single value. In this case, over 280,000 > of about 300,000 have a single value with the remaining 20,000 (less > than 8%) are scattered around the remaining values. So, if the > training I received is correct, using the <= value should result in an > index scan IF you do not use the value with 280,000 entries, which is the case here. > > I don't have a form with 1,000 let alone 100,000 entries. Does anyone > want to confirm/deny that this is the case? > > James McKenzie > L-3 GSI > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Oracle 9.2.0.5 CBO Not Using Index > > > > > I don't think using > vs. >= will make a difference, but the stats > could prove me wrong. > > Consider partitioning the table on the allowed status values. You can > accomplish this using the ardb.cfg file for new tables or using the > ardb.conf file plus your dba for existing tables; though this will > require some offline time to convert existing tables, esp. those with > large amounts of data (read worklog and audit trail diary fields). > > If you partition the table into 3 sections based on range (keyword > "range > partition"): > > PartitionA: 0-4 > PartitionB: 5 > PartitionC: 6 > > Then also include in the ardb.cfg to create the index on the status > field using the same partition ranges. > > There is a way in 9i and higher to allow row relocation between > partitions that you will have to investigate. The keywords escape me at the moment. > > See these links for more specifics: > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/oracle9i/datasheets/partitio > ning.html > http://www.lc.leidenuniv.nl/awcourse/oracle/server.920/a96521/partiti. > htm > > One little gem I will throw out there is that the ardb.cfg file only > interprets the first 314 or so characters of the clause you provide, > so don't overstep that limit or the table/index creation will fail. > > This method will ensure your server will use the index provided for > the status column. > > Axton Grams > > On 5/3/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** > > > > Jon: > > > > Your problem is using the < sign. This forces Oracle to check EACH > > and EVERY entry in the table. Try this: > > > > 'Status' <= "Pending" > > > > This should use the index as you are now looking for a value that > > has an end. > > > > James McKenzie > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Chau > > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:30 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Oracle 9.2.0.5 CBO Not Using Index > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > I've read some past threads on Oracle CBO optimization and database > > tuning and have been having a constant battle with my DBA on how to > > resolve the issue we are having. We have a HelpDesk form with an > > index against the Status field and it is not being used when we are > > using a range query. Example - 'Status' < "Resolved". Our > > optimization mode is set to choose and due to the distribution it > > wants/does a full table scan and causes several queries against the > > Status field to timeout: > > > > COUNT(C7) C7 > > ---------- ---------- > > 3 0 - New > > 597 1 - Assigned > > 192 2 - Work In Progress > > 133 3 - Pending > > 2083 4 - Resolved > > 283007 5 - Closed > > 34 6 - Recovered > > > > As you can see there are under 300k rows on this form/table. > > > > I looked into changing optimizer_index_cost_adj parameter so maybe > > the CBO would use the index but it didn't have an effect. We tried > > changing it to 10 on an session basis and ran our query. We checked > > to see the suggested parameter value from a script that was given > > here: http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_tips_cost_adj.htm > > and that > > wanted us to use 0, which is almost like using rule based > > optimization mode (my DBA said). Rule based does hit the index, but > > we want to stay on choose. We also update statistics on a weekly > > basis. Does anyone have any suggestions? The only thing I can > > think of is archiving, but it sounds like there are higher volume > > systems out there that don't have this problem. > > > > Environment > > Oracle 9.2.0.5 on HP-UX instance shared with another application ARS > > 6.3 p13 Windows 2003 HelpDesk 6.0 > > > > TIA, > > Jon > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > > http://www.wwrug.org > __20060125_______________________This posting > > was submitted with HTML in it___ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org > > > __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML > in it___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___
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