Adam,

You're correct. If the IVR actually had the write license then I would
consider it a valid update.
But to let a read only user create a record and have a filter or
escalation take that new record and update an existing record in
another form is prohibited by the License Agreement.

Same as the issue with AR System being the only user of the database.
License one tool to use another.
That's legal as far as I know. 


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam D Pederson
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Speech IVR and Remedy

Hey John:

I'm not sure that I agree with you that it would be a violation.  It
would be a violation if the integration was using a read only
connection, or was using the API to directly interface with the
application.  We've all built application integration that sync data
between two applications, and I'd view this as the same operation.  The
IVR isn't avoiding a license restriction because it is using a licensed
connection to AR System.  You'd have to talk to Remedy at more length,
but I've seen Remedy Professional Services build IVR integrations to
allow update and closure, so I know that it can be done through workflow
at least nominally within the bounds of the license agreement.

Regards,
 
Adam Pederson
ITSM Consultant
Xinify Technologies, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Speech IVR and Remedy

Carey and Roger,
OT from the original post but . . . 
There is one perfectly legal way to handle a situation like this. The
"closure" action actually creates a new record in a "Closure" form. That
sends a notification to an actual licensed user who in turn closes the
Helpdesk Ticket. No violation since the end user is creating a new
notification record and a licensed user is modifying the original
ticket. 
It's the same as if the customer called the helpdesk and said, "Please
close ticket # blah blah. Thank you."

Now using workflow for that step *WOULD* be a violation.


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Speech IVR and Remedy

Roger,

While I have not done this personally, I am sure it would be technically
possible.

The only concern that you should watch out for is to make sure that your
not breaking BMC's license agreement in this process.

You can try to cover yourself by setting "Submitter mode locked" AND
only altering values changeable for an authentication 'Submitter'
value for the record. Then obviously "do the right thing" and have some
kind of "login" in the IVR. Good luck with that part. An idea, might be
to use the number the user is calling form as an "identity", but BMC
might have some issues with that definition too. :) Your org might have
other options too.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

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