Since I have seen VALID system behaviour bugged in the past I wanted
to read up on the issue listed in this thread. SW00221647 has a
description of the following:

"
The form can still be accessed through Mid-Tier directly if Hidden
permissions are set on the form.
"

And currently shows a disposition of:

"
Converted to RFE
"

I personally do not see this as a "BUG" or a flaw in the behaviour of
the system or client. However I can see an enhancement request for the
behaviour of the Remedy clients. ( Such a change would give a false
sense of security to some developers, but it might also prevent the
need to build workflow to implement such client behaviour too.)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.


On 11/10/06, shweta kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**
I had discussed this issue with Remedy several months back and it was
reported as ARSystem bug SW00221647.

Shweta

Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Parikshit,

Hidden access is still permission to access. The users can open the
form in the User Tool if they are tricky enough, or if you have
workflow that does it. (not as easy as changing a URL, but not much
harder either.)

If the users have access to the data then it is not a security problem
for them to see the form or the data that they _ALREADY_ have access
to. ( If they should not see the data then look at row level access,
or other filter based ways of getting at the data.)


If you want to block people from opening a form then you could create
Window Open active links that would give an ERROR message and/or close
the form for them. ( This might be their last Mid-tier window and
might "close the browser" too. Which would make them loose their
session with the mid-tier and cause a higher incident of "your already
connected from another IP and you can not override that address yet"
on the re-login attempts too.)

NOTE: Active links will not "protect" data from an API client. But
they could block the form from being opened in the Mid-tier client if
that is the only place that this logic should be applied. ( or in both
the User Tool and Mid-Tier if you want as well.)

HTH

ARS101


--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.



On 11/10/06, parikshit saxena wrote:
> **
>
> Hi All
>
>
> We are trying to limit the accesss for a particuler group of user on our
> application vies on mid tier 6.3.
> The issue here is that the URL can be manipulated now by any user logging
> into the application and hence all sensitive data is exposed.
> We are trying to give Hidden permissions on the critical forms for this
> group, so that data can be accessed from those, but the forms are hidden
on
> the web client.
> But this doesn't seem to work here.
> Though the forms are not coming in the object list on ARUser now, but they
> are still visible on mid tier (despite of cache flush).
>
> Would be grateful if someone can provide some insights on this.
>
> Regards
> Parikshit

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