so our design should be where the customer data is AL:setfields the
submitter field with their specialized login id (which can get complicated)
for inside and outside customers. Prior to submission.
thanks..


On 11/30/06, Misi Mladoniczky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes (and no...),

If I recall correctly, you can set it manually or with Active-Links. You
can, unfortunately, not set it using filters... It is considered a change,
even if the filter triggers on submit.

       Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

> So that actually answers a question I hadn't had time to test:  With
> "Submitter-Mode-Locked" set, you can still set the value of the
submitter
> field on submit to whatever you want.  Is that correct?
>
> I'm clear on not being able to modify it afterward, but since I usually
> use $USER$ as the default for submitter, the need to use a different
> submitter had never come up.
>
> Thad
> P.S.  It must be an alliteration kind of day. ("submitter" and "user"
seem
> rampant in that email.)
>
>
>
>
> "Misi Mladoniczky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)"
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> To
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> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: Question on license
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The "submitter" is not neccessarily the person submitting the ticket.
>
> At submit-time you can specify any login name in the submitter-field.
>
> So if you know the read-license-person who will want to update a ticket
at
> submit-time, you can enter his/hers login-name in the submitter-field.
>
> I usually try to put the "customer-login" in the submitter-field
> regardless if a person submits from the Web or if he calls the
> Service-Desk by phone.
>
> The limitations with submitter-mode-locked is just that you can not
change
> it after you have submitted the ticket.
>
>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>
>> Yes that will work but some of the tickets are generated from the
> helpdesk
>> people.  So the helpdesk person is the submitter and the logon* is just
> a
>> requestor with read only.
>>
>>
>> John Atherly
>> American Power Conversion
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 401-789-5735 Ext. 2120
>> 1-800-788-2208 Ext. 2120
>>
>>
>>
>>              patrick zandi
>>              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>              COM> To
>>              Sent by: "Action          [email protected]
>>              Request System cc
>>              discussion
>>              list(ARSList)" Subject
>>              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]         Re: Question on license
>>              ORG>
>>
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>>              11/30/2006 09:59
>>              AM
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>>              Please respond to
>>              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>                     RG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ** Whoops.. did not even see michelle's answer.. Scarry..
>>
>> On 11/30/06, patrick zandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   Just looking this over.. Submitter locked mode allows the submitter
to
>>   update his ticket in Read license mode.
>>   The approver already has a Fixed or Floating license.
>>   So you could use a Diary field to log the conversation by inputs via
>>   Email submission or API or Mid-tier.
>>   Create a Question 400 character field, or 2000 for that matter. and
>>   Create an Answer Field.
>>   If the Question is placed in the field - push to diary, and send
email
>> to
>>   customer with a URL or Email form.
>>   Answer comes into the Answer field and gets pushed to the Diary.
>>
>>   Does this fit the License scenario ?
>>   They both have access to the Diary and Question and Answer field.
>>   The submitter is able to update his information.
>>   The approver is able to update the ticket.
>>
>>   Just a thought.
>>
>>
>>   On 11/30/06, John Atherly <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>    Yes we want to remain legal on this.   What I have been task to
> create
>>    is
>>    away for an approver to ask a question to the requestor.
>>
>>    What is happening a change request will come in for access to one of
>> the
>>    network drives.  In the justification field the end uses will type
in
>>    answer such as "New Job"    These answer do not help the approves in
>>    deciding on granting access or denying access.   Currently the
> approves
>>    either deny the request or has to create an email to ask for more
>> reason
>>    why they need access.  Then a couple days later when they get a
>> response
>>
>>    they have to find the request to either approve or deny.   I was
>> looking
>>    for a way to be able to start a two way communication between the
>>    approver
>>    and the requestor.   So I would need a field that approvers can ask
a
>>    question in and a field were the requestor can answer too and keep a
>>    record
>>    of the transactions (worklog)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    John Atherly
>>    American Power Conversion
>>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    401-789-5735 Ext. 2120
>>    1-800-788-2208 Ext. 2120
>>
>>
>>
>>                "Lucero, Michelle
>>                - IST contractor"
>>                <Michelle.Lucero@
>>    To
>>                MKCORP.COM>               [email protected]
>>                Sent by: "Action
>>    cc
>>                Request System
>>                discussion
>>    Subject
>>                list(ARSList)"            Re: Question on license
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>>                11/29/2006 03:07
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>>                Please respond to
>>                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>
>>
>>    Hi, John:
>>
>>    To modify an entry, one does need the ability to WRITE.  If the
> system
>>    is placed in Submitter Mode Locked, individuals assigned Read
> Licenses
>>    can Search, Submit, Display and Modify entries that they have
>> submitted;
>>
>>    as long as their login id is placed in field ID 2.  And, Submitter
> has
>>    WRITE access to each of the fields that needs to be updated.
>>
>>    There are multiple ways to address.  One can save thousands in
>>    maintenance costs, while remaining legal.  It all depends on your
>>    company or client's needs.  Obviously there may be some individuals
>> that
>>    will still require a WRITE license.
>>    =================================
>>    From Remedy Admin 6.3 Help - License Types
>>    Read
>>    Enables users to search and display existing requests.
Administrators
>>    can configure the AR System server to enable users to submit new
>>    requests and modify or save data in existing requests. (See "Special
>>    submitter mode".)
>>
>>    Restricted Read
>>    Allows users to search the AR System forms and submit new requests
> but
>>    does not allow users to modify existing requests under any
> conditions.
>>    It does, however, allow the same login account to access the AR
> System
>>    from multiple IP addresses simultaneously, such as when browsing a
>>    knowledge base or completing on-line surveys.
>>
>>    Fixed Write
>>    Includes all the capabilities of a Read license, and also enables
> users
>>    to modify and save data for existing requests based on the groups to
>>    which the user belongs. AR System administrators and
> subadministrators
>>    must have a Fixed Write license. Other AR System users who
> consistently
>>    need to modify requests must also have Fixed Write licenses.
>>    A user cannot be assigned the same Fixed Write license more than
> three
>>    times in one week. If this limitation is exceeded, the user must
wait
>>    one week from the first assignment of the Fixed Write license before
> it
>>    can be assigned again.
>>
>>    Floating Write
>>    Includes all the capabilities of a Read license, and also enables
> users
>>    to modify and save data for existing requests based on the groups to
>>    which the user belongs. Floating Write licenses can be used by
> multiple
>>    users, one user at a time. This type of license is designed for
users
>>    who occasionally need to modify and save data for existing requests.
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Atherly
>>    Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:47 PM
>>    To: [email protected]
>>    Subject: Question on license
>>
>>    If I create a total new application from scratch then the public
will
>>    not
>>    need a write license to modify a record!  What I'm looking at doing
> is
>> a
>>
>>
>>    record will be created by support and then will be updated by the
>>    enduser.      I thought that this was true but my partners in crime
>>    different from me.
>>
>>    Thanks
>>    (No it's not a bet so I will not win or lose a beer)
>>
>>
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