I too have been in a number of those conversations. LJ stated it very well
and I agree.

The issue is not with you mentioning your product. Quite contrary in some
of these discussions there has been mention of how it is sad the approach
you often use overshadows the product you have to offer, and flat out
leaves JSS with a black eye. I remember in one post you ripped ASSO to
shreads techincally. While there were a few BMCers that became defensive
you made a very well stated, technical-based post that could not be argued
with. As much as a person or two wanted to delete the post it remained.

Just to throw this out there for everybody, there are customers like LJ and
myself that are moderators on the BMC Communities. We are involved in the
backchannel conversations (like mentioned above) that are not publicly
seen. It is not just BMC at the wheel there. Of course the platform being
provided by BMC gives them ultimate power but us customers are not afraid
to call them out when we feel somebody is being heavy-handed in the BMC
Communities. Sure they could kick us out of our role however I think there
are enough reasonable BMCers involved in BMC Communities that recognise the
value of outside moderators. Yes, I have upset some BMCers with my
"outsider view" in the Communities and so far I haven't been uninvited from
the party. However I also don't start with a machete. I typically start
with a small dead blow and work my way up from there if needed.

Jason

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:44 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> John,
> I was involved in some of the discussions about what you had said on the
> communities that may have been edited/deleted....I don't recall any of the
> specifics, but I can tell you that the discussion was around whether or not
> your statements were purely inflammatory in nature or not.  I do recall
> some discussion regarding your stance on just about everything 'BMC' which
> in almost every forum I have experienced it is hostile at best....I
> personally feel that your words would come across better if you didn't have
> a machete in hand slashing around at everything around you while you were
> saying them :)
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM, John Baker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Would you believe it, but BMC still censor posts on BMC Communities?
>>
>> Dare I mention any other SSO solution than AtriumSSO, which every man
>> and his dog within BMC knows has been a complete shambles, they'll
>> delete my post! Even if I point someone with a small budget at the 'open
>> source' SSO solution for AR System, their moderators become quite cross.
>>
>> So Daniel, despite our famous rows, I still prefer reading ARSlist for
>> the BMC gossip :)
>>
>> By the way, whilst I'm posting, I'll add a shamlesss plug. BMC's current
>> 'front page' success story at Vodafone
>> (http://www.bmcsoftware.uk/customers/vodafone.html) is deployed with the
>> JSS SSO Plugin. :)
>>
>>
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