So, how come servicenow can still see the benefit in investing in a annual
conference but BMC cannot? http://knowledge.servicenow.com/

Really wish that they would do a survey with customers or something before
they make these decisions. Especially when so many people have said how
they have benefited from the annual conferences.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Sanford, Claire <
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

> **
>
> Michelle… It was way more than 12 years ago!!  It was when Remedy was
> still Remedy and Before the Evil Black Bird!
>
>
>
> BMC sent an email out to the area customers I guess.  I received the
> initial one and two reminders.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Claire Sanford
>
> ISD ITCC Technical Engineering
>
> Lead Application Analyst
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Lucero, Michelle
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:24 PM
>
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: BMC Engage
>
>
>
> **
>
> Wow, that’s pretty cool, Claire.
>
>
>
> How were you notified?  If one were in the Plano /Dallas area I might
> consider going even if it were at a bowling alley.
>
>
>
> Didn’t we attend a TRUG in Austin at Dave and Busters about 12 years ago?
>
>
>
> Michelle
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
> Claire
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2017 3:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: BMC Engage
>
>
>
> **
>
> The one they had in Houston was at Top Golf!  After work hours sort of.  I
> think it started at 2pm?  I didn’t go.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Gould
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:22 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: BMC Engage
>
>
>
> **
>
> Here's the response I received from our Federal account rep:
>
> "Engage was not cancelled but modified to align with five geographical
> metro areas for easier travel. Our event in DC will have a strong Federal
> focus. From that perspective, it works to our customers' benefit due to
> restrictions with travel and we can now offer Federal based sessions.
> Please let us know if you have any questions."
>
> Gotta love the spin on how Engage was not "cancelled".  How on earth does
> BMC think a 1 day event is better.  How will I have time in one day to
> attend sessions on enhancements coming to the next version of ARS/ITSM? Or
> learn about other BMC products like Service Broker, Client Management or
> their various cloud offerings?  How will I fit in lab sessions to test
> drive Smart Reporting?  Or experience hands-on Innovation Studio?  etc.
>
> Ridiculous...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Dave Barber <daddy.bar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Engage in London last year was quite enjoyable, but the focus did seem to
> be a little chaotic.  Rucksack was good.  Tee shirt was too small.  Pen
> still works.  Was good to catch up with some old colleagues too that I
> hadn't seen in a few years.
>
> But there did seem to be a lack of real in depth sessions on the new
> technology, actually seeing the innovation studio was high on my wish list,
> and that was totally denied.
>
> Hope we do have another here in london again, but won't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> On 7 February 2017 at 19:53, Paul J. Zagarella <pzaga...@temple.edu>
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> I spoke to my sales rep and confirmed that the 2017 Engage in Vegas is
> cancelled. The comments that I heard about Engage 2016 were in line with
> what I noticed at the conference as well. The fact that they pushed
> Innovation Studio and did not have any sessions on it or any workshops was
> crazy. They were really pushing Blade Logic and Control M but did very
> little with ITSM. The funny thing is that all the ITSM sessions and
> workshops were booked and the Blade Logic and Control M sessions were empty
> or half empty. They really need to focus on tech for these instead of sales
> and more people would come and maybe even buy stuff! When you go to CES or
> even something like Blizzcon, you see product and get to try stuff out.
> They should have scheduled labs with HRCase, Innovation Studio, etc, going
> the whole entire time. In general, they should have planned way more
> labs/training sessions  and encouraged developers to bring their apps to
> showcase. Also, moving it from the second week of September would really
> help as most schools are too busy with the start of the school year. Well….
> we will see what happens at the new format but basically it will probably
> end up being more sales. L
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:34 PM
>
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: BMC Engage
>
>
>
> **
>
> Yeah, given how well the last one was attended, there has to be some other
> reason.  I'm guessing it has something to do with sales goals.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2017 11:31, "Saji Philip" <sphili...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ** I hear they are trying to revive the WWRUG (the founders) in a
> different format, if BMC does announce no more Engages.  BMC really blew it
> with this one..
>
>
>
> And everything they are saying is 'we conducted surveys and listened to
> the public and decided that multiple geo-centric events is betier than a 4
> day global conference.'  Really? Who did they talk to?  I say the new CEO
> did not want to fork over a million to subsidize and organize these
> events.  Probably gave the pink slip to the BMC event dept.
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017, 6:27 AM Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote:
>
> **
>
> I haven’t been to an ENGAGE yet so can’t comment on it but yes the WWWRUG
> were definitely worth it for a lot of reasons if you could afford the cost
> and expense associated to making to one..
>
>
>
> So where would these “exchanges” be held at?
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tales - Grupos
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: BMC Engage
>
>
>
> **
>
> This seems to be true as I found here: 
> *https://communities.bmc.com/thread/159503
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__communities.bmc.com_thread_159503&d=DwMFaQ&c=cBOA5YEoZuz9KdLvh38YxdrPtfJt83ckXekfBgq5xB0&r=TjDOQeE84FB3IkKBOKJ7-reBz8qKDLQv4sMWw_GFxq4ypeuVm4ZMlj00hGeKuFbo&m=BWGG9hZRVHJ9gLuvK3O_t8Udv1hDYJfHNiJVX67dZFA&s=eaJBl_VNmvUdUx5zk5B80_UWAXRjHEn9Orh_mHNCHjo&e=>*
>
> "...But essentially,  we are changing it up to a more flexible, innovative
> and approachable format for our customers.  In 2017,  we'll be hosting MORE
> locally based,  one day FREE events (think mini Engage) and they will be
> called BMC Exchange. We already host BMC Exchanges outside North America
> and have for many years.  They're widely successful!  We understand and
> have heard from our customers that being away from the office for a week,
> the conference fee and the T&E expense to come to LV is a lot.  So more
> exciting information to in Jan and thank you for you patience as we work on
> the details/schedule..."
>
>
>
> 2017-02-07 9:34 GMT-02:00 BradRemedy <bradrem...@gmail.com>:
>
> **
>
> I mean - even Sevicenow is having a conference....
> http://knowledge.servicenow.com/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__knowledge.servicenow.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=cBOA5YEoZuz9KdLvh38YxdrPtfJt83ckXekfBgq5xB0&r=TjDOQeE84FB3IkKBOKJ7-reBz8qKDLQv4sMWw_GFxq4ypeuVm4ZMlj00hGeKuFbo&m=BWGG9hZRVHJ9gLuvK3O_t8Udv1hDYJfHNiJVX67dZFA&s=3_2GSggSMMqI5yYA_A4tZBWsmNWvUDR7qP7UyJvFFv8&e=>
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 1:33 PM BradRemedy <bradrem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah I also heard the same thing. And just when I wanted to go to it this
> year. I really wish BMC would just stick to one thing. I also wish that
> WWWRUG would come back.
>
>
>
> There is no way that I will be able to get motivation to fly to a one day
> event. I managed to convince the business that the 4 day event in the
> states was fantastic and worth the money.
>
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>
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> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 4:50 PM Saji Philip <sphili...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ** I am hearing that BMC Engage for 2017 is not happening....   _ARSlist:
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