A question for those that have taken any 7.x classes.
 
If one was limited by funds, which 7.x class would you recommend? In
other words if one might have to pay out of their own pocket for a
class? (Hopefully, that is tax deductible.)
 
Which ONE of these three would be a best fit for a long-time (2.x - 6.3)
Remedy Developer?
What's New in 7.x
Remedy Admin II
or, Remedy Admin III
 
The last official Remedy course taken was the week long, "AR System
Delta 5.X & Web Deployment".  However, I've been working with 6.3 since
the early limited release launch in Feb 2005.  I've poked around and
have read a bit of the manuals in 7.x, but haven't launched anything in
production, yet.
 
On a similar note, it looks like Column is offering Admin II for 7.x in
Dallas.  I've heard through the grapevine that they would consider
adding an Admin III for 7.x in Dallas as well.  I would prefer to go to
Pleasanton, but could see the class, hotel, airfare, etc. getting up to
$5000.--.  I just can't afford that out of my own pocket.
 
Thanks,
Michelle
 
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ARS Training location/instructor recommendations


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The one improvement of sorts was in the labs.  You had your choice of
using the step by step detailed instructions, or you could use the
advanced exercise that did not fill in all the steps for you actually
causing some required thinking. 
 
I've taken Admin 1-2-3 in v2, 3, 4, 4.5 and now 7.  I've always found
them a nice review.  Of course each year you know more and more but
there are always new features and then there are the features you may
not have had an opportunity to use.  Can you have too much education?
Of course you can go through the manuals page by page and make sure you
understand everything in them, but how many people actually do that.
You spend the time in class focusing on the subject matter and also
thinking about how you're going to apply it back on the job.  The
thinking time you are allowed in class is very valuable to your job
also.  Sometimes we get in ruts doing things the same way when there's a
new and better way. 
 
Of course this is just my opinion and I always felt that a good
foundation in a new subject meant more success and better development
along the way.
 
Susan

 
On 2/19/07, Dave Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

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        Hopefully my colleague and I will be doing some v7 admin
training some time quite soon - are the courses similar structure to the
v5 courses?
         
        Its a few years since I did my v5 training (part 1 & 2), and I'd
like it if the courses weren't aimed so much at total noobs to the
environment, although maybe thats more for the part 3 course?  Would I
be right in assuming that a lot of the people now attending v7 courses
are likely to have had years of experience on v5/6 releases? 
         
        Regards
         
        Dave
        
         
        On 18/02/07, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

                ** I just finished taking the v7 Admin Part 3 in
Downer's Grove with Dan Gerrish.  I also had him last year for Part 2.
Dan did a great job.  The part 2 class was quite large (14) and he
managed the time line very well.  This past class was very small and was
a lot of fun since we were all experienced and dictated the speed.  Dan
gives a very clear explanation and is able to answer questions
thoroughly.  As will all classroom settings wierd things happen and
those were all investigated and a resolution/cause determined.  We
didn't feel rushed nor held back.  
                
                
                I took a class with Lenny years ago and it's true, he is
great .... but very hard to get a class with.  Lenny was just recently
promoted and although will still be teaching it is likely that task will
be diminished. 
                
                Now if you're talking location and t&e is no issue nor
time away, then Pleasanton would be my first choice.  Been there many
times and it's always great.  
                
                Quite frankly, although the instructor is important
...what's really important is how you take in the information and the
questions you ask to insure you understand what you're learning and how
you're going to apply it back on the job.  The composition of the class
is also important to how it goes.  I prefer a group that wants to learn
not just show off hoping to get your future business. 
                
                Good luck in your choice,
                Susan 
                
                
                
                On 2/18/07, Roger Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

                        ** 
                        
                        Lenny is the best all others were probably
trained by him.
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