I think it's actual acronym stood for 'Krappy Monotonous to program in
Language'....I was forced to 'Learn' it to modify it for a company I
previously worked for....

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?


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Scott,
 
One of the reasons the Tivoli Service Desk was "dropped" by IBM is because
the core programming language these applications were built in is an obscure
language called KML. Just so you know, this KML language is an object
oriented language, it is not the Keyhole Markup Language. I don't know what
the acronym means though...
 
Guillaume

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From: Scott Hammons
Sent: Wed 05/16/07 8:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?


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Emad,
 
Thank you for the clarification.  I was just passing on the information that
I know at this time.  It appears that IBM will be putting quite a bit of its
R&D effort into improving the Maximo product.  IBM already has a change
management utility incorporated with it's CCMDB product.  By the way some of
the people that have told me the benefits of the IBM product line are
ex-Remedy people that went to Maximo after being let go by BMC.  
 
Personally I always thought it was a big mistake for IBM to let go of their
original service product.  I'm a big fan of the Remedy product line and it
looks like IBM has made these moves to go head to head with Remedy.  I guess
time will tell if it is a good move or not.  
 
Thanks,
 
Scott

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Emad Zaky
Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 16:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?


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I am sorry Scott,
The Asset part in Maximo is good, since that's what Maximo was originally
built for....
The rest of Maximo's ITSM still needs to evolve in a lot of aspects to
compete with Remedy as well as other well established  ITSM apps...

 
On 5/16/07, Scott Hammons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

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Correction.  IBM purchased a company called Maximo that has a service desk
and asset management component.  IBM also has CMDB called Change and
Configuration Management Database (CCMDB).  I can get info on this products
out to you if you contact me off list.  It appears to me that they are
jumping back into the game through acquisition.  From what I've heard about
the product and it appears to compete well with the Remedy product suite. 
 
Hope this helps,
 
Scott
 
Scott Hammons
Principal Tivoli Security Consultant
Advanced Integrated Solutions, Inc.
http://www.aisconsulting.net/
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of William
Rentfrow
Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 15:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 

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Tivoli ITSM = IBM Tivoli Storage Manager.
 
This is not a ITSM type product whatsoever.
 
Historically Tivoli used to own Tivoli Service Desk, which previous to IBM's
acquisition was known as Software Artistry's product line "Expert Advisor".
The acquisition happened in 1997.  Tivoli rebranded everything in 1998 and
spun half of the product line off into a company named Coreport - Corepoint
lasted < 9 months.  The entire product line was sold and killed off right
around January of 2000.  Anyone care to guess who bought it? (Rhymes with
"Beregrine") 
 
Tivoli does not have this type of product line any longer.  Strangely I know
of at least company still running the EA product line. 
 
IBM does have some CRM products but nothing extremely similar to Remedy.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:13 AM
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 
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Doug, have your people look at the Forrester Wave pdf (which you can get
from BMC's web site) that compares Service Desk platforms.  The Tivoli suite
isn't in there, but about a dozen other (including BMC) are. 
 
Rick 
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Douglas W.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:01 AM
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 
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Hello ARSList Wizard-folk,

One of my co-workers has become enmeshed in a comparative analysis of BMC
Remedy ITSM and IBM Tivoli ITSM. His group was all set to go with the
ARS-version 7-based Incident, Problem, CMDB, & Knowledge canned applications
when someone asked, "What about Tivoli?" I am glad I'm not in his shoes but
would like to try to help. 

If you have compared the BMC and Tivoli solutions and have any tales to
tell, documents to share (anonymous attribution or not), or Tivoli gotchas
that ought to be examined carefully, please let me know (on- or off-list). 

Many thanks for any insights,
Doug Anderson


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