I use VSS on Fridays to backup my ARS defs. I turn off source control during the week. This gives me a weekly snapshot that gets backed up on the file servers. Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on SourceSafe ** Simply put Jenni, VSS is my Worst Enemy and my Best Friend. It's a pain to use, the way Remedy plugs into it leaves much to be desired, BUT, the first time you "Screw Up" (not that I've ever done that!), your awful glad it's there..... Warren On 6/5/07, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doug, Actually as far as I know (or last I checked) ClearCase has so serious of flaws in how it works with ARS that I would call it unusable. There are workarounds to most of the issues but it is so "buggy" to impractical in my opinion. You have to have your objects names overly restricted due to trying to use ClearCase with ARS. In specific you can have an ARS form named "foo" and an Active link named "foo". ARS is fine with this as these are "separate name spaces" in ARS. However the way the ClearCase stuff works it stores a foo.def file in one directory in ClearCase. So if you check out and make a change to the Active Link last then ClearCase may think that you just changed a Form into an Active link and you "loose" the presence of the "Form" in ClearCase. (Yea technically version n-1 is a "form" and version n is an active link, but good luck trying to use that kind of a source control system to recover a system from. :) All of which are very bad things to figure out in the middle of the night when you are trying to recover a server. :( Meaning you may need to rename objects for ClearCase to even have a shot at working correctly for you at the start. And any development work going forward needs to have extra steps added to prevent corrupting your ClearCase source control due to this odd naming collision problem. ( My understanding is the root of the problem is that the Admin tool issues an MS SC API call that basically said "change directories" and ClearCase viewed that API function as "optional" or "not applicable to the ClearCase design" and they simply ignore it. Which produces the naming collision on the ClearCase side of the communication.) I would stay very far away from ClearCase for this and many other reasons. (At least as far as ARS is concerned.) My experiences were also with ClearCase on a Unix server so there were extra NFS clients and setup and bugs involved too. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. On 6/5/07, Tanner, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well for what it is worth, ClearCase is not much (if any) better > Doug ________________________________________________________________________ _______ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" -- Warren R. Baltimore II Remedy Developer UW Medicine IT Services School of Medicine University of Washington Box 358220 1325 Fourth Ave, Suite 2000 Seattle, WA 98101 The opinions expressed in this e-mail are in no way those of the University of Washington, or the State of Washington. They are my own. __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender. _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
