This was not a dream at all.  If I remember correctly, they do it once a
year or so.  Maybe it's getting to be time again?  Maybe it should be
extended to collect job type/duration/rate/etc as well, anonymously, of
course?

Axton Grams

On 6/8/07, Thad K Esser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Didn't Kinetic used to do an annual survey of arslist to get demographic
data on the Remedy workplace (and to show off Kinetic Survey)?  Or did I
dream that?

*Thad Esser*
Remedy Developer
"*Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."*-- Richard
Bach


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Any Remedy professional who works as a contract individual for $25/hr in
the U.S. should be beaten with hoses, just for screwing up the market for
the rest of us.  But that rate could be a decent one in other places.  Which
illustrates why you can't get good data on this topic - it's too dependent
on variables like location, contract type, work definition, qualifications
and experience, etc.  Even if every consultant in existence responded, I
don't know that you would have good enough data to work with, because there
wouldn't be enough constancy in the data to be able to define norms.

BMC, and a few high-end consulting companies, charge more than the
$125-150/hr. that I see as the industry average, not the top end, for U.S.
contracts.  Compared to rates for other application and business consultants
(like SAP) that's comparitively cheap.

*Rick*
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** Claire, I am in my corner of the world, which might as well be a milk
carton for you or anything else you fancy. I didn't think I was indicting
anybody in particular, but just making an observation. Thanks for adding to
the conversation and with a literary flair.

Thanks to those who replied after my last post validating the info I
shared with the list. That summary still stands, more than enough for me.
Enjoy the weekend folks.



On 6/8/07, *Sanford, Claire* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:
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Ray,

It could be because you are using a basically Anon account and maybe
people don't know who Ray T. is???

Who is Ray T?  Are you on a Milk Carton somewhere?

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Subject:* Re: US Contract Rates?

** I see incredible resistance to share info. Two replies I got (one good
one) put the range at US$25-$150/hr, but note the unscientific and
insufficient sampling. It's probably a realistic range, because people were
talking about their observations, not their rates. By my own estimate,
$55-$125 is much more common (for development, not administration).

Thanks to those who replied.

On 6/7/07, *Ray T.* <* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:
I hear total silence. Anyone? I'm not interested in your rate, but only in
your general observations.

On 6/6/07, *Ray T.* <* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:
Hello to contractors out there. Looks like I will be looking for a new gig
in a short while. Market seems strong, what kind of hourly rates are you
seeing? I am specifically interested in US, northeast rates, for experienced
architect, developer with process knowledge and with certification, but lets
trade all stories. I will trade my limited knowledge with yours. Email to my
address directly.

If I get enough replies with enough details (rate, length, location,
industry, skills required) to compile a meaningful summary, I am willing to
share the overall "occupational outlook" with you guys.

Thanks.
PS: Please email me directly, not to the list.


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