I am wondering how much trouble I will get in by switching Submitter to Requester in places like the filter HPD:HII:CreateIncident_100'! - and going back to the old Submitter = Requester model? I cannot avoid some customizations - I am already in there having to restore Login_ID (and to some degree Corporate ID, which has been treated inconsistently) to its former status as a search field for both customers and customers' tickets, or there is no way we will ever get our users to switch from ITSM 5.5 to 7.x.
Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. Remedy Database Administrator University of North Texas Computing Center http://remedy.unt.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Worthington Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It That's what Helpdesk 4 used to do. I just verified that ITSM7 Incident Mgmt does not change the submitter. It's who submitted, not the customer. (shocker) -tony -- Tony Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 262-703-5911 Scott Parrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 07/18/2007 03:04 PM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It Mike, As you know, locking the submitter modes mean the submitter field cannot be changed after it has been populated. But that doesn't mean that the submitter field can't be initially populated with the value you want it to have. For instance, if a customer calls your help desk and your customer service agent submits the ticket, that doesn't mean that the initial value of the submitter field can't be the ID of the person calling in, not the person actually submitting the ticket. In this way, the person calling in can still work the ticket on his own. I would bet this other organization plans to "fix" this problem by changing the workflow where the submitter value is originally set to $USER$ to some other value. Scott Parrish IT Prophets, LLC (770) 653-5203 http://www.itprophets.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wallick Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:46 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It Here's an interesting for for y'all. We have a very good and fairly long relationship with a BMC partner that we use for consulting/development/purchasing and, when the time comes in November or so, we will also be using them for support instead of BMC. First, a little background. We use Remedy Customer Support 5.6 with a not-too-customized version of the Customer Access Interface deployed through the mid-tier. The submitter mode on the AR server is locked, so that customers with account using read licenses can submit and work their own tickets through the web. However, we have many customers that insist on using the phone for the initial submission of an issue, and then want to work the ticket from then on through the web. You see where I'm going with this? The customer can't update tickets via the web if they were not the submitter, unless they have a fixed or floating license. Floating licenses are expensive, so we've been reluctant to go down that road. Our VP of support doesn't like the BMC partner that we've been using nearly full time for the past two years (they're GREAT, BTW), so now this VP is bringing in another consulting firm who claims that for $6400, they will solve the customer access interface licensing "problem" without purchasing any new licenses from BMC and also in a "BMC approved" manner. I call B.S. First, I find it hard to believe that BMC would allow some sort of scheme where you can get away with not buying licenses and still give your customer base read/write access to their tickets. Second, how else would one run a server in locked submitter mode, while still allowing customers to modify "their" tickets even if the ticket was submitted on their behalf by a tech support agent? The first thing that comes to mind would be to have a trigger or scheduled job or something at the database level change the submitter column to the customer's login name on insert of a new record. I seriously doubt that's a "BMC approved" solution. Perhaps this firm is going to suggest something like having the customer's "log in" but all the actual interaction with ARS will be proxied through a single user with a fixed license and all the necessary permissions. But even that seems like something that BMC might balk at. Thanks. 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