I am observing the same thing after:

1) Getting TelAlert running, so that you can have command-line paging (I
could not get on-call groups to work without it).
2) Creating an on-call group entry for critical tickets in my normal
Remedy Support group, and designating my assistant and myself as on
call.

Once I set up an on-call schedule in my normal Remedy Support group, I
have only received pages for critical tickets, no email notifications
for lower priority tickets.

This ONLY makes sense (and it is a stretch, unconfirmed by re-reading
the documentation), if they never intended for the on-call function to
be used from normal support groups, but for on-call groups to exist
completely separate from other support groups.  Of course, the value of
such a thing is limited since you cannot assign a ticket to BOTH the
normal support group AND the on-call group.  It makes the on-call
"feature" vastly less useful than I (and probably you) originally
thought, and leaves me wondering how to duplicate the old preference in
ITSM 4/5/6 for getting paged on Critical or Escalated tickets _in
addition to_ the normal email notification.  You probably have to add a
bunch of custom notifications to do that.  It also makes me wonder why
we had to buy TelAlert at $8000 a server just to find out how limited
this on-call capability really is.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7: "On-Call" and "Shift" Functionality question

John,
I believe you are talking about records on "NTE:CFG-NotificationEvents"
form (alias Notification Preferences), which has records of type "User"
added/modified by support staff through their
profile->Notifications tab->Update Notification
Preferences button->Create or Modify button.

I thought I understood this part ok and it worked correctly. System
default records for a given event apply only if that user hasn't defined
a "User" type preference for that event.

My main issue is with (2) in my original post. If a group is flagged as
"on call", looks like they get paged if assignment occurs within the
time they wanted to be paged (say after 5 PM). That's good. 

But before 5 PM, this group doen't get any notification at all. Why
shoulnd't they get regular notifications...such as emails? It's crazy.
Why is it either or. Why can't a group get regualr emails when
appropriate and still get paged when they want...after hours,
weekends??? How am I going to explain this to this customer?

Somebody tell me I am talking non-sense here and that it does email. My
tests and analysis of workflow show it doesn't.

--- john rosquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, your observation that the system in incoherant is correct.  
> Though the problem goes deeper than you indicate.  At the person 
> (people form) you cannot modify "your" global notification 
> preferences. You can only add to notification records to your 
> person/notification record (and then change and delete it).  The 
> System administrator can only modify the "global" records. To force 
> the system to use the regular user/people record defaults, set the 
> global notification method to "none". (cross fingers
> here) So you ask, why have global notification records, if to get them

> to work you turn them "off".
> Go figure. It turns out that the system then looks up the users actual

> notification preference and uses it. (Again, cross fingers, because I 
> have not figured out how it does this)
> 
> The group shift functionality seems to be underdeveloped or a partial 
> thaught.  It does not seem to work even though you can actually 
> configure it.
> 
> I really hope the BMC will modernize this bit a antiquated code.
> 
> I am not sure that Cereal is strong enough.  I have taken up playing 
> unreal as "dropdeadfred."
> 
> Good luck!
> John Rosquist
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rabi Tripathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:55:13 AM
> Subject: ITSM 7: "On-Call" and "Shift" Functionality question
> 
> 
> Somebody please explain to me the "On-Call Group"
> flag
> on  CTM:SupportGroup form.
> 
> This is what I understand:
> 1)If the flag is set, there is always corresponding
> record(s) in "CTM:Support Group OnCall" form of type individual or 
> group.
> 
> 2)If a group is flagged as on call, only pager notification as per 
> OnCall settings are sent on assignment, not regular email, alert 
> notifications.
> I
> find this VERY FUNNY and hope not true, but that's what I see in the 
> workflow.
> 
> 3)When doing on-call paging, the "Paging Times"
> specified through "On Call" tab of CTM:SupportGroup form is all that's

> taken into account;the info in "Business Hours/Workdays" tab of the 
> "CTM:SupportGroup" is completely ignored.
> 
> Can anybody confirm/correct my understanding?
> 
> About "Support Group Shift" functionality, the "configure" book has 
> this in its index, but the corresponding page has no info. I don't 
> know from where you set this and what good does it do to anybody. I'm 
> hoping it's not tied to OnCall feature.
> Anybody knows the secret to this feature?
> 
> Thanks guys. 
> 
> PS: I'm going to try to bury myself in my breakfast cereal for a while

> and let those parts of my brain swollen red trying to decipher ITSM 7 
> recover for a while.
> 
> 
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