I can't help but agree with Norm 100% on this one.  There have been too
many instances in the past where I've been talking with other developers
and/or clients on non-Remedy related projects where the conversation
drifted onto a topic where we could use some sort of tool to help us
out.

In many cases, Remedy comes to mind.  For example, project management.
I tell my colleagues/clients that Remedy is great for what we're talking
about, but it is often the case that there is no way Remedy will be a
viable option due to the hefty price tag alone.

Am I mistaken or does ARS now support mySQL?  If this is the case, then
if ARS was reasonably priced, you could come up with rapid solutions or
create handy tools for "next to nothing".  I could see BMC making a lot
of money selling many low cost ARS instances over charging an arm and a
leg for a few ARS instances.

Once BMC has people hooked on Remedy (because they're selling it at a
competitive price), they could easily milk more money out of these
reduced price ARS sales by offering other services (e.g. support).

It just makes good business sense to me and is a "win-win" for all
parties involved.  

But, I do see one downside to this.  How would your existing customer
base feel knowing they've been dishing out mega bucks for years and then
see new customers pick up ARS for the cheap?

Ben

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Thoughts on Core ARS Licensing

Well I'm talking about selling just the core ARS as a *development*
system, not one of their turnkey apps.

I think it would be awesome if you could just buy the ARS with unlimited
licenses for $500-$1000 (without support, of course) like you can for
other development suites.

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Thoughts on Core ARS Licensing

** 
I have had discussions with VP's at Remedy --- When it was Remedy on
this.. But it was a no go... 
My Idea was just a little different.. in the sense that they release a
Free version once.. 
of their Helpdesk solution.. it was called Helpdesk Express.. you just
had to buy Remedy server and
licenses.. Which I thought was a Great Idea..  It for some reason never
took off.. 
Then I recommended and upgrade - slight to helpdesk express for ARS 5.x
or 6.x -- no app fee, but a license key
if you have support - 1 year at a time -- kind of a Lease program...
They never did that either....
 
I have made suggestions like this in the past..   They have their
reasons..

 
On 9/21/07, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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        I apologize if you've already read this in another thread.  I
put this in a response to the ongoing IBM MRO thread but then realized
that it's a bit off that subject and I was hoping others would pass
their thoughts on the topic.  I figured a lot of listers wouldn't see my
response since it was in the IBM MRO thread, so I'm starting this new
one.  Sorry for "doubling." 

         

        Anyway, here's the idea: I would like to see Remedy lower the
price on the AR System and the ARS user licenses.  They could do a full
push of ARS as a "Lego" development system--we give you the blocks, you
put them together.  By lowering the price of the ARS, the ARS platform
would be more viable as a solution for the types of tracking apps Bing
is referring to. 

         

        The ARS is just too expensive for many companies...especially
when there are other development tools available for a much, much lower
price--with the Visual Studio on top of the pack. 

         

        BMC could still charge whatever it wants for the ITSM suite and
licenses.

         

        ARS would then be viable in all sorts of settings and us "ground
up" developers would not necessarily be in direct competition with BMC. 

         

        BMC then could make up the difference in volume and sell tech
support packages separately.

         

        Could you imagine an ARS priced comparably to Visual Studio?!
ARS would become a major development platform.  Everyone would benefit.
BMC would increase sales, companies would get a true rapid app
development system, and us "old timer" developers would be in big demand
as DEVELOPERS and not as CONFIGURERS. 

         

        Thoughts?

        Norm

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