Hi David

This is not related to your temp file problem, but is something you may wish
to note.  The Status field in the User form is changed in version 7.1 as
part of the password expiry process to have more than just Active as a
value.  Adding your new delete status may cause you a problem when you
upgrade to 7.1.

Just something to be aware of.

Regards

David Sanders
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory

Interesting.  It doesn't time out on the newest install.  Only on our
production server.  We made a change on the User form but it was
minimal.  Only added Delete to Status field and changed it from a Radio
Button to a Drop Down List.

I have log files to send off to Support.  We'll see what they have to
say.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory

We installed 7.0.1 patch 003 some time ago.  I don't think we've done
anything with it since.

We just finished a install of 7.0.1 patch 003 on another server.  I'm
going to see if I can reproduce on that server.

Dave 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory

Hi David!

Have you upgraded your server, having the install shield update the
User-form, or have you done a fresh install of version 7.1?

         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se/sv/

> I wanted to post an update on this issue.  While performing the
export,
> the system creates a temp file that usually is small and disappears as
> soon as the export is finished.  I have found that simply exporting
the
> User form (no work flow) will cause the admin tool to time out during
> the export.  This causes a disconnect between the admin tool and the
> temp file.  The file will continue to grow until services are cycled.
>
> I have not tried all forms yet but I can export many of our home grown
> forms and workflow.  I have exported a couple of other AR System
forms.
> So far only the User form is causing the time out.
>
> Dave
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HARTWICK, SCOTT G CTR DISA
> JSSC
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> Dave.
>
> I've been working around what may be some related issues.
>
> I'm cleaning up lots of workflow and discovered hard coded server
names
> which can cause the server timeouts. In our case, there are IP
addresses
> for server names that carried over to production over the years. If
the
> Admin tool can't resolve the server name or IP address, it tries and
> tries and causes ARERR 90, 92, etc.
>
> Our def file is about 280MB.
>
> Similarly, I turned on ARAPI logging and the arxref.log filre was 5GB
> when I killed it and gave up. The problem seems to report every error
in
> cross-referencing in detail - so the more unstable the workflow is -
the
> bigger the logs get and they may not be able to complete the process.
>
> Do you have any server, client logging or ARAPI turned on?
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Scott.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory
>
> **
> that's cool...I was just covering all the bases...:)
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:02 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory
>
>
> **
> LJ Head,
>
> Not exporting as XML.  Just standard def file.
>
> Rick,
>
> You're question is the one that I'm trying to figure out.
>
> Dave
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory
>
>
> **
> OK, I just ran a sanity check - for my own, not the server's.  I
created
> a def file of a few dozen forms.
>
> Size of Def file:  116 MB.
> Max Size of tmp file in Windows/Temp:  113 MB+.  (It may have gone
away
> before refreshing to a higher value).
>
> So since I seriously doubt you have 10 GB worth of code, why are you
> getting a 10 GB temp file?
>
> Rick
>
> On 9/18/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>       Well, that still doesn't make sense, because even your DB,
> including all indexes, isn't 10 GB.  Either there's some horribly
> inefficient design, or there is a local issue.  I have Windows servers
> that don't have 10 GB of open disk space, and I create def files for
and
> on them all the time without running out of space.
>
>       Is this SQL, or Oracle?
>
>
>       Rick
>
>       On 9/18/07, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
>
>               From my understanding it's kind of a scratch file that
> is then processed
>               down to what comes out in the def file.  It seems to me
> that it
>               shouldn't be that much bigger than the size of the def
> file that gets
>               created.  Worse case maybe an order of magnitude larger.
>
>               I think that somehow it's tied into the timeout due to
> server busy
>               message.  To me it looks like some kind of looping
> condition that
>               continues to gather data but no where to report it.  The
> admin tool has
>               dropped the link and creates a 0 size def file.
>
>               I haven't had a response to my question about the
> timeout condition.
>
>               Dave
>
>               ________________________________
>
>               From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>               [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
>               Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:12 AM
>               To: [email protected]
>               Subject: Re: Large file in system temp directory
>
>
>               **
>               OK, here's what I don't get on this:  The biggest def
> file I have is
>               around 200 MB, and that's including most of ITSM 7.  How
> is a 10+ GB
>               temp file justified?  If it's working as designed, make
> them justify the
>               design.
>
>               Rick
>
>               On 9/18/07, Shellman, David
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>                      **
>                      Here's an update on the issue.  The file size was
> 10 Gig and
>               growing rapidly.  The file was specifically tied to
> exporting workflow
>               from the admin tool.  As soon as we would cycle the
> service associated
>               with the AR System the file would disappear.  When I
> would start the
>               export process, the file would appear.
>
>                      We just moved over to the Windows environment
> from SUN systems.
>               I don't ever remember seeing anything like this on SUN.
> If the system
>               would have been writing a file this large in system
> workspace, the SUN
>               guys would have been all over me.
>
>                      I got a response from Support yesterday.  It's
> working as
>               designed.  I haven't ever had the admin tool time out
> with server busy
>               error with an export of workflow before.  I also did not
> see (could have
>               missed it some where) that exporting workflow would
> create a huge
>               temporary file in a system temp directory.  If we would
> have known this
>               before we would have setup disk space much differently.
>
>                      Dave
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