Rick,
 
I firmly agree with you.  You and I and a number of the arslist oldies
can identify the back line people who have been the basis of our success
for years.  I offered the solution to help all of us, as it took 5 days
worth of exchanges with the front liners and their inane questions when
I pinpointed and forwarded the problem and specific documentation to
them instead of the other way around and only asked how to fix the very
specific problem and it still took 48 hours before I finally received
Gary's email with the answer.
 
C

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RESOLVED] Escalation creating dup tickets


** 
Chris, I'm not at all surprised that Gary was able to provide a quality
solution, but if I may clarify for a moment, I don't think many (if any)
of us are displeased with the support that the "old-timers" like Gary
give us - it's usually stellar.  It's the offshore people that are hit
and miss, and are the source and direction of our ire. 
 
Just want to be sure it's clear that we know who and where the good
techs are, and we value them as highly as you do.
 
Thanks for sharing the solution with all of us.
 
Rick
 
On 10/4/07, Pickering, Christopher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        ** 
        Ladies and Gentlemen,
         
        For future reference, if your system is included in a Server
Group AND your escalations start acting particularly obnoxious
(duplicate tickets, multiple TID's, etc) - Thad identified that aspect -
there is no way to "turn off" escalations are you normally would in the
admin tool using the "disable escalations" switch.  To accomplish this
feat all you need to do is arsignal -e [servername] on the primary
server running the escalations and presto its fixed.  This command
recaches escalations. The fix was ultimately offered by Gary Reif in BMC
Technical Support.  I fully believe that credit should be given when
they do well considering all the blasting they take at other times.
Thank you Thad and Joe D'Souza (keep drinking that caffeine) for your
patience and suggestions. 
         
        Chris P
        
        
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        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Thad K Esser
        Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:57 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
         

        Chris, 
        
        I haven't followed this whole thread, so I apologize if I missed
something, but is there only one TID (thread id) in your escalation log?
I've had situations on an unpatched 6.3 server where "ghost" escalation
threads would show up.  Escalations would appear to fire twice on the
same data and the only evidence was multiple thread id's in the
escalation logs. 
        
        The fix was to disable escalations in server settings (stops all
the escalation threads), and then re-enable them.  I never tracked down
what caused it, but the problem went away with a later patch (20, I
think). 
        
        Thad Esser
        Remedy Developer
        "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."--
Richard Bach 
        
        
        
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        ** 
        I noticed duplicate actions but actions with no mappings on
them.. I was wondering what was with that too.. 
          
        Joe D'Souza 
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pickering, Christopher
        Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:41 PM 
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
        ** 
        Thats the another odd part of it.  Although the first firing
indicates that the escl failed, then the next log entry is the firing of
the same escl again, but if you wade through the push fields, you will
see that each field is pushing twice, then actions 2 & 3 are duplicated.
I've been waiting for BMC to call back with their diagnosis, but I can't
wait that much longer.  I have to get this back into production. 
          
          
        
        
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        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
        Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:25 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
        ** 
        I noticed that but it fails qualification once, and the second
time around it passes the qualification, and performs the push operation
once.. Did that create a duplicate ticket even though it appears like it
performs the push once? 
          
        Re-creating the escalation might help. It may be that the
Escalation definition cache has encountered some sort of corruption. 
          
        What you could try doing is exactly what I've emailed you
directly - i.e. - Delete the Escalation, stop the Escalation server by
disabling the Escalation thread, recreate or import that escalation
back, and then restart the escalation server. 
          
        If that doesn't work, re-engineer the whole thing to see if that
works. Have the Escalation check for an unprocessed record in the Alerts
7.1 form (this I recognize as a Netcool form???). When an Escalation
finds an unprocessed record in the Alerts 7.1 form set the acknowledge
flag, and have a filter process the push to the helpdesk form by
checking for the TR value of the flag. 
          
        Joe D'Souza 
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pickering, Christopher
        Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:04 PM 
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
        ** 
        Joe, 
          
        I've sent the log file and a def file.  The oddity here is that
when you look into log file, a single escl is firing within itself.  The
escl starts, then starts again in mid operation and it completes the
operation twice.  I've never seen this before.  The most obvious thought
would be to delete and recreate, but I would love to have BMC tell me
how this happens. 
          
        C 
        
        
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        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
        Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:47 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
        ** 
        Sure send it on this email account directly if you do not intend
to send it on the list.. It might take me a while to take a look at it
but I'll see if I can spot anything.. 
          
        I might ask for a combination of a filter and escalation log too
later if the escalation log alone is not enough, but for a start lets
have a look at the escalation log only and see if I can spot something
there.. 
          
        Joe D'Souza 
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pickering, Christopher
        Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:56 PM 
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
        ** 
        Joe, 
          
        Is there a better email acct to send a piece of the escalation
log.  There is something very odd within it. 
          
        C 
        
        
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        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
        Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:49 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: Escalation creating dup tickets
        
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        Chris, 
          
        What are the chances that both your escalations evaluate to
True, thus firing actions twice during the runtime of both the
escalations resulting in 2 tickets? 
          
        Joe D'Souza 
        -----Original Message-----
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