I'm getting off subject a bit so I'm branching onto a new thread... I got tired of upgrades breaking our customizations so I wrote a bunch of SQL scripts that can compare two databases (presumably one upgraded, one not) to see what's different. These include:
forms form permissions views indexes results list containers container permissions fields field permissions field properties This doesn't keep the upgrade from doing its damage, but at least I can find all the problems and correct them. I fix what I need to and then save a DEF file that I import after the next upgrade to fix what I know it's going to break. There may be a better (and still free) way that I don't know about but this worked for me. These are for SQL Server. Hit me off the list if anyone is interested. Chad Hall (501) 342-2650 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: v7.1 and the User/Group/Role forms w/ new stuff ( Standard WebServices, strange workflow...) I came across the AssigneeGroupAccess group the other day...didn't know why it added it...but yes you are correct...the upgrade stomps (just like all previous upgrades) on the user form...had to add a few things back in to the form for my app to work again...interesting stuff really -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: v7.1 and the User/Group/Role forms w/ new stuff ( Standard WebServices, strange workflow...) All, I have started to look at a clean install (no existing db) of v7.1 in some detail and I have found a few interesting things..... Has anyone noticed the OOB Web Services that are in the base Server? I see three Public (Group access) web services: User Roles Group The form permission for the forms are as such: User: Public(hidden) Group: Administrator (only) Roles: Administrator (only) So the User Web Service and the form it points at (User) are Publicly accessible. However.... User's field 1 only has one group with access to it. Drum role.... "AssigneeGroupAccess". (No I did not stutter.) Which turns out to be 'Group ID' = 60988. ( Field 2 and 4 no longer have access to the records unless their 'Login Names' are added to the 'Dynamic Group Access' (field ID 60988) field. Ok.. so the data should be safe by default. However this construct raises a few questions for me too... I wonder if the installer does the "super smart thing" and reviews the permissions on field 1 on the User form before the changes and adjust the permissions on the field 1 and/or the data in 'Dynamic Group Access' after the changes? Or maybe it will just stomp on the User form (like it has in previous upgrades and trash the customizations that customers have made to the permissions? (and then leave the existing data totally unaccessible to anyone except admin?) Has anyone attempted to upgrade an existing server to v7.1 and have had customizations to the permissions on the form/fields? (Any one know if the customizations were stepped on or maintained?) OH.. and the 'Status' field actually has two values now. ("Current"(0), and "Disabled"(1)) And there is an OOB filter (User:SetUserStatusCurrent) that test for "( 'Status' = 20) AND ...". So I doubt that filter will ever be true. :( Maybe some of the OOB apps add more 'Status' values to the User form?) Just wondering.... -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ________________________________________________________________________ _______ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" *************************************************************************** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. **************************************************************************** _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"

