I think the security would be the biggest problem.. I think I could get it
to work... but the secuirty sacrifice would make it useless.. no IA team
would let it pass..

On 1/31/08, patrick zandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> good point Axton --
> I thought of that after ward...
> But I need the salt so I can make a way...
> I love it when it is mpossible odds..
> ;-)
>
> On 1/31/08, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting topic.  This is a question for anyone with C programming
> > experience on unix or linux.
> >
> > When sending icmp packets, you have to create a raw socket.  This
> > requires either running the program as root or setting suid bit and
> > the owner of the program to root.  With the structure of the plugin
> > server, would a shared object (.so) loaded by arplugin not running as
> > root be able to create a raw socket if the .so was owned by root and
> > the the suid bit set?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008 6:30 PM, patrick zandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > **
> > > --Concept--
> > > Unless this application is going to provide some internal historical
> > data..
> > > I see no reason for maintaining it in ARS.
> > > Just call a widget. -- Create a VB or Something else, that pop's a
> > window
> > > and shows network health.
> > > or even use the widget to call a View of HP Openview (your personal
> > View of
> > > Servers, Services)
> > > or Bim/Sim it, and have the Proformance monitor show you your
> > specialized
> > > view (highend customers).
> > > --
> > > I used to have a script in unix around that I wrote some 12 years
> > ago.. that
> > > was pretty cool, will have to see if I can modify it to run on MS..but
> > first
> > > I have to find it. You just plug in the Servers/Whatever.. and every
> > 30
> > > seconds it told you if it was alive or down. You have to be able to
> > write
> > > something like this in windows easy enough.
> > >
> > > I know there are hundreds of Scripters on the list.. that could just
> > pop
> > > that out.. no problem.
> > > Maybe a config file and an Executable. -- use Remedy usertool to
> > modify the
> > > Config as you choose, and run the executable.
> > >
> > > I found one in PERL
> > http://cpan.org/authors/id/S/SR/SREZIC/pingomatic-1.013
> > > But we need one that pops a MS Window and shows the data.. right..
> > > on the unix side found this..
> > >
> > http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2003-January/002996.html
> > > ... Coder's Arise...
> > > Surely it is possible to have a small window with Tiny font, pop a
> > window
> > > and show
> > > name  --> Alive
> > > name ++ Down
> > > name --> Alive
> > >
> > > and it stays on top. Forced..
> > > --/Concept
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/30/08, Steven Pataray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > **
> > > > As for the Up and Down field, maybe have the results create a text
> > file on
> > > the server then create a Menu of Menu Type of File to access the text
> > file.
> > > Then connect the menu to a character field.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/30/08, William H. Will Du Chene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Why not...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.) Develop a form that contains the ip address, or host name of
> > the
> > > > > machine that you want to ping.
> > > > > 2.) Develop a view form with a table field that queries the host
> > form.
> > > > > 3.) Develop a simple Perl script and place it on your server to be
> > run
> > > via
> > > > > an escalation every X minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Perl script would then use the ARSPerl module to open up the
> > host
> > > form
> > > > > within the AR System and retrieve a list of the hosts that it
> > needs to
> > > > > contact. It would then cycle through each of the servers therein,
> > and
> > > > > update the corrosponding server's host record within the AR
> > System. The
> > > > > Perl script could use either one of the Net modules, or simply be
> > a
> > > > > wrapper for the ping utility. Maybe you could even do something a
> > bit
> > > more
> > > > > classy, such as open a connection to the any of the services that
> > might
> > > be
> > > > > on the server and verify that they are available (for example, if
> > this
> > > > > server is an IMAP server, your script could access an account, or
> > if the
> > > > > server is a database server, it could create a row in a test table
> > &
> > > > > database) and collect the delta for the amount of time that the
> > > operation
> > > > > took and place that into the host record.
> > > > >
> > > > > From your control panel form, use an active link that updates
> > every X
> > > time
> > > > > period. The idea being that any servers that are down, or services
> > that
> > > > > would be unavailable would be visible within the control panel. Of
> > > course,
> > > > > the accuracy is limited by the delta in time that is present
> > between the
> > > > > last run time of the script and the refresh on the control panel,
> > but it
> > > > > should work fine for the average stuff. Besides, if it's a major
> > network
> > > > > or service outage, the customers will be on the phone anyway...
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a thought...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Will Du Chene
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > http://www.myspace.com/wduchene
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > --
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> > > >
> > > > Steven Pataray
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