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On Feb 7, 2008 9:55 AM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So let me summarize:
>
> If you're an anti-Microsoft zealot, use Apache (or whatever the open
> source/competing product is) each and every time.
>
> But if you're not really concerned about all those politics, IIS is a
> fine choice for Windows operating systems.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William H. Will Du Chene
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:07 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Apache vs IIS
>
>
> If I had my choice, I'd run with Apache - each and every single time.
>
> There are a number of reasons for that, not the least of which is that
> the
> web server itself has been time tested and beaten to death repeatedly on
> web servers all over the internet. It has seen the best and worst that
> can
> be offered by end users. It is the web server that can be thought of in
> the same category as a work truck. It's good, solid, and gets the job
> done.
>
> Configuration is also very simple. No. There isn't an 'explorer' to do
> the
> job with eye candy and mouse clicks. There is a configuration file, and
> a
> text editor. Really that is all that is needed. If you've got something
> in
> front of you that says otherwise, watch out. Someone is selling
> something
> again. Shake their hand, complain of a meeting, give them a boot in the
> wazoo and close the door.
>
> Apache is also cross platform, so your architecture has the ability to
> expand and change platforms if your situation changes at some point in
> the
> future. Likewise, there are enough modules and methods of customization
> for it which give it a significant amount of flexibility.
>
> Yes. You probably saw this one coming, but - if you want to - the source
> code is available for review and not locked away in someone's internal
> source server because it 'represents a source of IP,' or because 'they
> want to ensure a significant return on their investment for the
> shareholders.' (Jeez... Just typing that makes me feel the need for a
> shower.)
>
> Likewise, and this is probably my biggest single gripe against IIS, is
> that the <bleep> web server is *not* divorced from the operating system
> that it sits upon. Thus, there is no single installer or package
> available
> in which you can install something like IIS 6 or IIS 7 on top of an
> older
> operating system such as NT4. If you could, there would be one less
> reason
> to upgrade, right?
>
> In the same train of thought, paint my hair blond and call me silly but
> why, ohh, why should an operating system patch affect a web server so
> that
> it causes it to crash because both file system permissions have been
> changed and the internet guest account gets messed up? We had that
> happen
> with a couple of our intranet servers a couple of patch cycles ago.
> Positively crap-tastic. (Yes. I actually maintain several IIS servers
> for
> a living as part of my job - and I hate it.)
>
> An Apache/Tomcat combination is a beautiful thing. Why break them up and
> try to install something like Atlanta in there anyway? Apache is best
> suited to serve static content, such as images and regular files, html
> docs and the like. Tomcat is best for JSP. The connector that bridges
> them
> together is conceptually a work of art. All major implementations which
> I
> have been a part always use this combination. IIS and Atlanta are left
> to,
> well, smaller installations and I honestly sometimes consider them -
> ahem
> - toys. (When something goes wrong, I can be seen headed into the IIS
> server room with baby whipes, a warm bottle and a diaper, or a 40
> mega-joule crash cart depending...) Similarly, running Tomcat withouth
> Apache in front of it just seems, well, wrong... but that is a whole
> other
> topic and I digress....
>
> In the end, setting my obvious opinion aside for a moment, you may not
> have the choice in the end. Your environment will most likely dictate
> which platform to use, simply by the ability that is present to support
> it. If you have a few good *nix people running around, chances are you
> could make an Apache/Tomcat combination work just fine. Even if it is on
> a
> Windows platform, supporting the application is similar enough that the
> skillset can be used.
>
> By the same token, if the current terrain in which you find yourself is
> dominated by funny-lookin', primary colored flags on everything and
> people
> with a strange fixation on blue polo shirts and khackis, well, IIS &
> Atlanta may be your only choice because the point-and-click crowd is 'in
> the house' (Hey, did I get the reference right that time?).
>
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >   If you have to choose between IIS and Apache which one would you opt
> > for? I mean in term of ease of administration, performance, security
> ..
> > we are planning to install this in a clustered environment with load
> > balancing software and would like to know if you had issues if any
> with
> > running Mid-Tier against IIS or Apache?
> >
> >   Many thanks
> >   frexpopo
> >
>
> --
>
> Will Du Chene
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.myspace.com/wduchene
>
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