Well put.

Axton

On Feb 19, 2008 8:12 PM, William H. Will Du Chene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Bah!
>
> If I am interviewing someone (and there have been a few choice occurances
> of this in the past which were against my will and my manager had to drag
> me from my console sessions, kicking, screaming, and clawing cube walls
> the entire distance to the conference room) I am not looking for what they
> have done in the past, what books they read, what animals might be on the
> cover of books, or what degree the person has.
>
> When you think about it, these criteria are positively useless. Using the
> above, the interviewee might well 1.) have seen the books in passing and
> be able to identify them, 2.) might copy someone elses design concept
> (what if it is patented, or confidential?), or 3.) have a degree (or not
> have one at all) in one field, but have been subverted into working with
> the platform of choice at some point and been doing so for some time. (I
> once knew a talented AR System developer who was nuts about the product
> and was darn good with it, but had a Phd in Theoretical Mathmatics. He'd
> teach an occasional class at a college when time permitted as well. Go
> figure.)
>
> So - you see, most of the criteria that get used so often are - IMHO -
> bunkus.
>
> An ideal candidate is one that is a passionate person; who is not just
> fond of a platform or a technology, but rather is obsessed with it. A
> candidate must be willing to learn; to go to bed at night with the
> technical manual and wake up in the morning with the zipper-like seam
> across their forehead because they fell asleep face-first on the manual.
>
> I don't want someone that is able to recite back what they learning
> sitting in a classroom at some training center and thinks that it's "cool"
> because they now have a cute little cert sitting in a frame on their cube
> wall. If I were to pick, I'd want the person that gets a smile on their
> face about the technology, the one that one legs starts jumping up and
> down when they're talking about the platform, and the one that the heart
> rate starts to pick up when you show them the latest version of the
> software. The whole point is not what you know - it's what you can do with
> that which you do know.
>
> I'd hire the person that has notes scribbled all over the manuals, and
> keeps crib notes stashed in his/her pocket written on napkins and
> bubble-gum wrappers or a "code book" (a book where random ideas about
> system design are sketched out), and I would more than likely
> file-thirteen the resume of the canidate that has all of the certs, and a
> zillion years of experience with whatever it is that your working on. Why
> you may ask?
>
> Simple. There is no room in a small cube for an ego that has been
> developed to such an extent, nor is there an allowance in a budget for the
> salary that is demanded. Most really good developers are forged in the
> fires of code, learning, and tribulation - not stamped from a mold,
> prepackaged and shrink-wrapped for sale. C'mon, you know that this is a
> fact... How many of us got up one day when were kids and said, "I wanna
> grow up to be an AR System developer?" I'd wager that the answer is - ahem
> - none. We all got drafted.
>
> If you're hiring for a position, more than likely you want someone that is
> going to do the job (maybe the candidate might not be able to at first,
> and would require some training or getting their hands wet with the
> technology first), someone who will be obsessed about it, and not someone
> who is going to cost you a few hundred an hour with perks and travel
> expenses.
>
> You want someone that you can drop into the desert of a server room one
> day, and the next day when you check on 'em, you can see that they are dug
> in, got a suntan, a water reservoir, and have some sort of meat cooking
> over a BBQ spit, rather than finding that your million dollar candidate is
> parched from calling for room service and looking for the butler.
>
> Hire ninjas with very little or nothing to lose, not samurai that come
> from the court with vast tracts of assets.
>
> Just my thoughts... Offered humbly...
>
>
>
> > Best question I ever got as a developer was a request for me to design a
> > Car....
> >
> > Of course the interviewer was looking to see if I'd ask questions about
> > the
> > type of Car, Usage, etc....
> >
> > If I had just designed it as I wanted, I'd be back in Ohio!
> >
> > Warren
> >
>
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> Will Du Chene
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>             - Norm Kaiser
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