Joe, do you want to remove text characters or do you want to keep numbers?
tha'ts whitelisting vs blacklisting and will be faster.

Regards,

Michiel

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ** Yes the thing Is I don't think I am allowed to use direct SQL.. I have
> a statement ready for use like you suggested, plus I have a view ready with
> clean data, but have not got approvals to use that. The thing is this
> customer does not have an onsite Remedy admin and are unwilling at the
> moment to use external means to drive their applications.. They are worried
> about maintaining it after I leave even if I do leave them with SQL scripts
> and instructions how to maintain the view using those .SQL files..
>
> I 'might' just have to resort to a Filter guide having those nasty 26
> nested replaces.. not sure what that would cost the transaction overall, but
> I don't see many other ways out of this..
>
> Mathew's java scripting plugin idea may be good too, but that again is
> creating an external plugin which I do not think they would support. Besides
> I don't think we have time enough on hands left for that.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Grooms, Frederick W
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:16 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Equivalent of the TRANSLATE function in Remedy
>
> ** You are correct ... that is extremely nasty
>
> If you were allowed to use an Oracle (asuming you are on oracle) SQL Set
> Fields action you could do it like
>
> SELECT TRANSLATE( REPLACE( TRANSLATE( UPPER('$PHONE_BUSINESS$'),
> '+/-()!#*,.', ''), 'EXT', '?'), 'XABCDEFGHIGKLMNOPQRSTUVWYZ', '?') FROM
> dual
>
> No need for any type of view and all of it is contained inside Remedy.
>
> Fred
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Joe D'Souza
> *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2008 6:33 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Equivalent of the TRANSLATE function in Remedy
>
> ** Rick,
>
> Not sure if you can use the ASCII range, never tried it..
>
> Thad,
>
> Yes same phone number issue and while doing it directly at SQL yes I did
> use Upper before Translate so I have to translate less...
>
> The actual select statement that I designed, as a result of all the
> formatting that was necessary, was too long and may not be fun for some of
> you to read on a day when Friday Humor is posted, so I'll copy how I read
> one of the phone numbers while creating a db view instead of the whole SQL
> statement I wrote..
>
> Unfortunately the customer wants nothing to do with external db views or
> direct SQL to the view, so I cannot use it but need to translate the SQL
> below to ARS code.. While I am good with translating TRIM to LTRIM and RTRIM
> and REPLACE and UPPER to REPLACE and UPPER in Remedy, my only option seems
> to be a nested replace 26 times for alpha characters instead of a single
> TRANSLATE..
>
> trim(replace(*translate*(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(*upper*(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(replace(PHONE_BUSINESS,'+',''),
> '/',''),'-',''),'(',''),')',''),'!',''),'#',''),'*',''),',','')),'.',' '),'
> ',' '),' X','?'),' EXT','?'),'
> ',''),'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ','^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^'),'^','')) as
> PHONE_BUSINESS,
>
> The above reads the Phone_Business column in the external view after
> stripping it off all the junk, and replacing " EXT" or " X" for extension
> with a "?".. That delimit of "?" would tell me if a phone number has an
> extension and where the extension string began from.. This replacement is
> done before the translation of alpha characters to ^ so we do not loose the
> extension information - I have taken care of that! So the end result is a
> numeric character string.
>
> I created a view with the above statement applied to most phone number
> columns during the view creation and got a clean view without loosing
> extension information in any of the records.. (32101 records) So far I was
> happy except that now it looks like to translate the above statement to
> Remedy code might be a more expensive process considering that Remedy
> doesn't have a TRANSLATE function..
>
> I wonder if cases like this would qualify for an RFE.. TRANSLATE is used
> by all RDBMS's right??? I know it is used in MS-SQL too.. not so sure about
> My-SQL and Informix..
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Thad K Esser
> *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2008 6:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Equivalent of the TRANSLATE function in Remedy
>
> **
> Joe,
>
> Sorry, I'm not sure there's an easy answer to this one without using the
> SQL.  I think you'll have to loop through the string one character at a time
> to doing your find and replace.  Some thoughts though:
> 1.  Does this have to do with your phone number formatting issue?  Would
> it be easier to approach the problem by looking to include valid values
> (numbers) versus replacing non-valid values (alpha)?
> 2.  If you have to create a nested replace for all alphabetic characters,
> since you're going to remove them anyway, use an UPPER() or LOWER() on the
> string first, so you only have to do half as many replacements.
> 3.  Is the server on Unix?  Could you use a unix Translate command (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr_(Unix)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr_%28Unix%29>)
>  in a run process instead of SQL?  (Oh hell, I just looked it up, of course
> the command is "tr".  I can't believe I have to suggest that.  :-)
>
> Anyway, I hope that helps some.
>
> *Thad Esser*
> Remedy Developer
> "*Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."*-- Richard
> Bach
>
>
>   *"Joe D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
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> 03/28/2008 03:00 PM
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>    To
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>   Subject
> Equivalent of the TRANSLATE function in Remedy
>
>
>
>
> **
> Has anyone implemented the equivalent of the Oracle TRANSLATE function in
> Remedy?
>
> I have a field where I wish to translate all the alpha characters into
> lets say ^ and then replace ^ with null to make that field free of alpha
> characters.
>
> The only way I can think it is possible right now is to have a nested
> REPLACE for each character. Any other method?
>
> I have been asked to avoid direct SQL's as far as I can so I'm going to
> resort to Direct SQL as a last resort option..
>
> Thanks Thad for responding to that one.. Maybe you know the answer to this
> one too :-). Unfortunately on this gig I do not have that much of a luxury
> to 'try' it out'
>
> Cheers
>
> *Joe D'Souza*
>
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