Then I must say that they still have permission, I noticed someone else
mention Public, does the field have Public read permission?  If so, that's
your culprit. 

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions

But they CAN see the contents of the field itself.  If there is data there
the test person can read it.

Dwayne

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:51:52 -0600
>From: LJ Longwing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions
>To: [email protected]
>
>Dwayne,
>Sorry to say, but removing permission to the field removes their 
>permission to see what's in the field, not the field itself.  The 
>exceptions to this would be 'Trim' fields, buttons, boxes, etc, because 
>those all disappear when you don't have access, but when you don't have 
>access to a Char, Int, etc you simply can't see the contents of the 
>field, but you can still see the field itself
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:29 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: User can see fields with no permissions
>
>Dear List,
>
>We have a permission group called "IT".  We have a form with some 
>fields that "IT" used to have permission to, but we have decided to 
>remove those permissions.  So I went into the Admin Tool and removed 
>"IT" from the permission list in each field.
>
>But when a test user with only "IT" permissions opens the form he can 
>still see all the fields.  If he tries to change the data and save the 
>form he gets, "ARERR [333] You have no access to field : [field name]", 
>but with "no access" he shouldn't even be able to see the field.
>
>I cleared the cache, and made a cosmetic change, and the cosmetic 
>change appears on the screen, so it isn't a caching issue.
>
>What is going on?
>
>(ARS 7.1, RH Linux server, Oracle 10.2 db)
>
>Dwayne Martin
>James Madison University
>
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