This got complicated quick - I suspect the incomprehensible behavior of
a deployable application may be at play here.  I created a form like you
said, and have filters populating it with records when HPD:Help Desk
updates. I have not been able to create a hidden table field on HPD:Help
Desk that points to the custom form, however, possibly because it isn't
part of the "application." It keeps displaying the field list from the
HPD:Help Desk form itself. On the other hand, I cannot get it to display
the correct field list even when I point it at a table that IS in the
application.  I am probably missing something silly here, this late on a
Friday, but there doesn't seem to be any way to add a tablefield to
HPD:Help Desk and point it at any other table and refresh the Fields On
Form with the correct field list!???  Admin 7.1.00.002 or 003 against
002 server.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/


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Chris,

Maybe for what you are trying to accomplish, you should setup a separate
form to track the unique listing of different groups who have been
assigned to work on an incident.

Setup workflow that when TR.Assigned Group is not null to push data to
this "IncidentAssignmentGroupTracking" form where Assigned Group =
Assigned Group on the form.  If there is a match, updating existing and
if not create a new record in the form and include the Incident number,
Group Name, and Group ID.

Then setup another filter on the incident form to occur after this push
to run a table walk through loop on a hidden table field that displays
records in the "IncidentAssignmentGroupTracking" form and for each
record return append the Group IDs to Field 112 (clear it at first and
then run the Filter Guide Table walk through and set the field to each
Group ID returned in the table.

I cant think of any better way of doing this though.

For Work Info records, I wouldn't sweat it since no user can directly
get that data and any reporting you set to get Incident and Work Info
data can be secured based on the row locking set on HPD:Help Desk.

Thanks
Peter Lammey
ESPN MIT Technical Services & Applications Management
860-766-4761

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Subject: Returning a unique list of values from a form with multiple
records

Here's an "interesting" problem.  Any of you using ITSM 7 (7.0.02.007)
in "multi-tenancy" mode might need to know this, too.

BACKGROUND: I keep running into issues where Incidents are not
accessible to groups that have worked on them, particularly where the
Ownership remains with the default distributed support organization (IT
support for the college the faculty/staff work in), but where several
separate central support groups need to pass the Incident back and forth
between them. Whoever is not currently assigned gets shut out. This is
aggravated by the fact that there is a bushel of OOTB workflow present
to prevent anyone from TAKING ownership of an Incident; it can only be
"given" by the current Owner Group, who may not have anything to do with
the incident if it is for a centrally supported system. All of these
groups are organized into different companies.

I have already had to add filters to shove group IDs into the Assignee
Groups field (112) for ALL three groups - customer company, assigned
group, and owner group.  Now I need to add group ids for previously
assigned or even previous owner groups, hopefully without too much
redundancy of entries in field 112 (the current solution already results
in some redundancy).

PROBLEM: The data I need to work with, the history of assignment and
ownership, is already being recorded in multiple entries (per Incident)
in the Incident Assignment Log form. I want to query that form in
filters for Incident Number = Incident ID, and Assigned Group ID !=
Assigned Group ID, and return all IDs that do not equal the current one.
There can be several of course.  The same thing for Owner Group ID.  Is
there a slick way to do this that will return a set of unique values
instead of multiple entries of the same value, or am I going to have to
set up some horrific parsing routine? I will still need to run another
filter that looks up the Group ID (10 digits) from the Assignment and
Owner Group IDs (SGP+12 digits) using the CTM:SYS-Access Permission Grps
form, for EACH returned value, to get the values that must be added to
the Assignee Groups field (112).  BTW, it is always possible the
Assigned Group and Owner Group are the same, so I am already putting
duplicate group IDs in field 112 in that case in some incidents, and it
does not seem to be a problem (and it is 255 characters long), but I
would rather not pack the field full of duplicate values if I can help
it.

BTW, the problem extends to the Work Information records as well, since
OOTB they only pick up the three values for customer company, assigned
group, and owner group based on the current state of the Incident at the
time the Work Info is submitted. I think that I am just going to shove
the Group ID for Incident user, 20003, into Assignee Groups with the
others and be done with it. The HPD:WorkLog form is not public, so
access to the records in it is controlled by the parent Incident.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/

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