"...Bing, not a session, a track! A track = 13 sessions..."

Wonderful. That's a great thing. Well done. That's not the answer to his 
question, however. His question was:

"Now, what about those complimentary developer kits?"

It seems like a fairly straight forward question to me, yet I don't believe 
that there has ever been a definite answer. Sure, I've seen a bit here and 
there as others have tried to wrestle with it, but I've don't believe that I've 
ever seen something right from the powers that be. If I am mistaken, please 
point me to the post (or resend the private message) and I will hang my head 
low, shrug my shoulders, sigh deeply and go off into the corner to lie down by 
my dish.

"...how much BMC has invested in making AR System THE work flow engine..."

Wonderful! Now, if they could only cut the license price and yearly support 
renewal to ease adoption of the application suite by new customers, we'd be 
making even more progress.





Kelly Deaver wrote:
> **
> Bing, not a session, a track! A track = 13 sessions.
>  
> Part of the conference line up includes -
> *13 sessions specifically dedicated to AR System and it's components - What's 
> coming, how to use them, deep dives etc. For geeks only.
> *13 Sessions on Atrium foundation applications CMDB, AIE, What's coming in 
> the 
> next version... Hint some REALLY cool new tools and products. 
> (Remember RemedyWeb (now mid-tier), Assignment Engine and Approval Server 
> began 
> life as separate products before they became part of what is included in AR 
> System. Learn what the future might hold in the area of an extended AR System 
> (Legal notice - no forward looking promises to be inferred)
> *13 more sessions for Atrium Applications - see list below
> *26 Sessions on ITSM
> *A track on Best Practices - many around Remedy
>  
> I've seen the topics being worked on. Believe me, the majority of the 
> sessions 
> are around AR System and Remedy applications, next most common are BMC 
> products 
> that integrate with Remedy products (aren't you all being asked to do these 
> integrations these days).
>  
> People! Remedy product line including AR System is not dead it has become the 
> heart and sole of BMC! If you look at a diagram of how all the products 
> within 
> BMC are related to each other Atrium is the middle circle that everyone else 
> integrates to or builds upon.
> Atrium includes -
> -AR System (In the very middle of the circle/BMC Universe)
> -CMDB - Built on AR System
> -DSL - Built on AR System
> -Service Level Management - Built on AR System
> -Run Book Automation - most popular adapter - AR System connector
> -Discovery - Ships with AR System and CMDB to hold the data they discover
> -Dashboards - Reports on SD, AM, CM, SLM, SRM and Service Impact Management - 
> looks mostly like talking to Remedy Apps to me!
> -Analytics  - Reports on SD, AM, CM, SRM, and CMDB - ALL Remedy products.
>  
>  
> You owe it to yourself to come to this conference and see for yourself how 
> much 
> BMC has invested in making AR System THE work flow engine. We didn't go off 
> and 
> invest all that money to build Developer Studio just so our engineers could 
> use it to build our own applications. BMC wants it to be the work flow engine 
> that the world uses. I give David Easter great credit for taking AR System to 
> the next level.
>  
> AR System Developers - You have a skill that will be needed for years to 
> come. 
> It was a smart choice to learn it. Now come to the conference and learn more!
>  
> ____________________________
> Kelly Deaver
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (Yes, I work for BMC. This post reflects the opinions of the poster and not 
> the 
> offical opinion of BMC)
>
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build
>     From: Bradford Bingel
>     Date: Fri, July 25, 2008 11:42 pm
>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>     I tip my hat to BMC/Remedy for holding a unique session dedicated solely 
> to
>     the AR System . . .
>
>     Now, what about those complimentary developer kits?
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Easter, 
> David
>     Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:15 AM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>
>     Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build
>
>     There is an entire track at UserWorld dedicated to just AR System:
>
>     
> <http://www.bmc.com/userworld/miami/agenda/Tracks_and_Sessions.html>http://www.bmc.com/userworld/miami/agenda/Tracks_and_Sessions.html
>
>     "BMC Atrium IIII: Enabling Technologies BMC Remedy AR System - this track
>     will take you beyond the vast, out-of-the-box functionality and enable you
>     to leverage your existing BMC Remedy Action Request System investment in a
>     way that you have not know before.
>
>     Explore detailed sessions on the latest technology offered in BMC Remedy
>     Action Request System,[...]"
>
>
>     -David J. Easter
>     Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc.
>
>     The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
>     this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
>     My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role 
> as
>     a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC 
> Software,
>     Inc.
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Davis,
>     David CTR NAVSURFWARCENDIV
>     Crane, Code 0552
>     Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:45 AM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>
>     Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build
>
>     When you look at BMC User World Sessions schedule this year, it is pretty
>     obvious what the direction of ARS is as far as BMC Software is concerned. 
> No
>     mention of the ARS product only OOTB products listed.
>
>     I was planning to go but NOW I don't see the value in going and am finding
>     it VERY hard to justify the trip to management.
>
>     Regards,
>     Dave Davis
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Howard 
> Richter
>     Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 16:40
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>
>     Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build
>
>     **
>     This is starting to sound like what we were talking about in 2001 and 
> 2002,
>     the end of Remedy as we know it.
>
>     hbr
>
>
>     On 7/24/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>> wrote:
>
>     **
>     Riley,
>
>     Are you a Remedy developer?
>
>     Susan
>
>
>     On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Riley, Russel
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>>
>     wrote:
>
>
>     Why buy AR Server for 25k when you can get a Visual Studio
>     Express edition, and SQL Server Express and make better apps?
>     For Free or at least not for 25k?
>
>     Who uses Access anymore nowadays?
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Axton
>
>     Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:06 PM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>
>     Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build
>
>     That initially means laying off and then eventually hiring
>     people.
>     This has some implications in terms of active development in
>     the
>     product lines and other things. Also, Microsoft has deep
>     pockets.
>
>     
> <http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded>http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded
>     <http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded>
>
>     Can BMC weather the storm? Is bankruptcy an option?
>
>     Seems like Microsoft got into some hot water over its
>     licensing
>     practices. Is this a healthy image or a good place to be
>     in?
>     
> <http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html>http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html
>
>     Seems like there were problems as well:
>
>     
> <http://news.cnet.com/Vista-views-Microsofts-license-changes/2009-1016_3->http://news.cnet.com/Vista-views-Microsofts-license-changes/2009-1016_3-
>     6126885.html
>
>     Not advocating anything, just running the cards of the
>     unspoken sides.
>     Much of everything is in a trap, to varying degrees, just
>     trying to
>     drop all premonitions and have an open view of all sides.
>
>     Axton Grams
>
>     On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF
>     96 CS/SCCE
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>> wrote:
>      > Yes, of course. I already have considered existing
>     forces.
>      >
>      > Think about it: BMC experiences a drop in revenue from
>     support and a
>      > drop in revenue in licensing initially. It then rebounds
>     by VOLUME
>      > sales of the ARS as a RAD toolset.
>      >
>      > Think about it: MICROSOFT DOES IT! Buy a copy of Visual
>     Studio and it
>      > comes with a license key in the manual. You can't install
>     the software
>      > without the license key. Bingo! Licensing problem
>     (mostly) solved.
>      >
>      > Ever watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? Last
>     night's episode is a
>      > perfect example. Gordon shows up to a restaurant that
>     does *some*
>      > business but is, by no means, a booming business.
>     Gordon tells the
>      > owner, "You need to completely revamp your menu." The
>     owner resists.
>      > "No," he says, "I don't want to lose my EXISTING customer
>     base by
>      > changing." Gordon says, "Well then you'll never be
>     successful."
>      >
>      > The moral of the story? Oftentimes you have to jettison an
>     existing
>      > mildly profitable (but declining) business model and
>     swallow some losses
>      > in order to go on to big time success.
>      >
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