Just sort of curious, but has there been any 'revelations' associated with this? We kicked the topic around back in July, and then the conversation got mysteriously quiet again.
> Kelly Deaver wrote: > >> ** >> Bing, not a session, a track! A track = 13 sessions. >> >> Part of the conference line up includes - >> *13 sessions specifically dedicated to AR System and it's components - >> What's >> coming, how to use them, deep dives etc. For geeks only. >> *13 Sessions on Atrium foundation applications CMDB, AIE, What's coming in >> the >> next version... Hint some REALLY cool new tools and products. >> (Remember RemedyWeb (now mid-tier), Assignment Engine and Approval Server >> began >> life as separate products before they became part of what is included in AR >> System. Learn what the future might hold in the area of an extended AR >> System >> (Legal notice - no forward looking promises to be inferred) >> *13 more sessions for Atrium Applications - see list below >> *26 Sessions on ITSM >> *A track on Best Practices - many around Remedy >> >> I've seen the topics being worked on. Believe me, the majority of the >> sessions >> are around AR System and Remedy applications, next most common are BMC >> products >> that integrate with Remedy products (aren't you all being asked to do these >> integrations these days). >> >> People! Remedy product line including AR System is not dead it has become >> the >> heart and sole of BMC! If you look at a diagram of how all the products >> within >> BMC are related to each other Atrium is the middle circle that everyone else >> integrates to or builds upon. >> Atrium includes - >> -AR System (In the very middle of the circle/BMC Universe) >> -CMDB - Built on AR System >> -DSL - Built on AR System >> -Service Level Management - Built on AR System >> -Run Book Automation - most popular adapter - AR System connector >> -Discovery - Ships with AR System and CMDB to hold the data they discover >> -Dashboards - Reports on SD, AM, CM, SLM, SRM and Service Impact Management >> - >> looks mostly like talking to Remedy Apps to me! >> -Analytics - Reports on SD, AM, CM, SRM, and CMDB - ALL Remedy products. >> >> >> You owe it to yourself to come to this conference and see for yourself how >> much >> BMC has invested in making AR System THE work flow engine. We didn't go off >> and >> invest all that money to build Developer Studio just so our engineers could >> use it to build our own applications. BMC wants it to be the work flow >> engine >> that the world uses. I give David Easter great credit for taking AR System >> to >> the next level. >> >> AR System Developers - You have a skill that will be needed for years to >> come. >> It was a smart choice to learn it. Now come to the conference and learn more! >> >> ____________________________ >> Kelly Deaver >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> (Yes, I work for BMC. This post reflects the opinions of the poster and not >> the >> offical opinion of BMC) >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build >> From: Bradford Bingel >> Date: Fri, July 25, 2008 11:42 pm >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> I tip my hat to BMC/Remedy for holding a unique session dedicated solely >> to >> the AR System . . . >> >> Now, what about those complimentary developer kits? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of >> Easter, David >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:15 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose> >> Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build >> >> There is an entire track at UserWorld dedicated to just AR System: >> >> >> <http://www.bmc.com/userworld/miami/agenda/Tracks_and_Sessions.html>http://www.bmc.com/userworld/miami/agenda/Tracks_and_Sessions.html >> >> "BMC Atrium IIII: Enabling Technologies BMC Remedy AR System - this track >> will take you beyond the vast, out-of-the-box functionality and enable >> you >> to leverage your existing BMC Remedy Action Request System investment in >> a >> way that you have not know before. >> >> Explore detailed sessions on the latest technology offered in BMC Remedy >> Action Request System,[...]" >> >> >> -David J. Easter >> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc. >> >> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in >> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. >> My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a >> role as >> a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC >> Software, >> Inc. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Davis, >> David CTR NAVSURFWARCENDIV >> Crane, Code 0552 >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:45 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose> >> Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build >> >> When you look at BMC User World Sessions schedule this year, it is pretty >> obvious what the direction of ARS is as far as BMC Software is >> concerned. No >> mention of the ARS product only OOTB products listed. >> >> I was planning to go but NOW I don't see the value in going and am >> finding >> it VERY hard to justify the trip to management. >> >> Regards, >> Dave Davis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Howard >> Richter >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 16:40 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose> >> Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build >> >> ** >> This is starting to sound like what we were talking about in 2001 and >> 2002, >> the end of Remedy as we know it. >> >> hbr >> >> >> On 7/24/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>> wrote: >> >> ** >> Riley, >> >> Are you a Remedy developer? >> >> Susan >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Riley, Russel >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Why buy AR Server for 25k when you can get a Visual Studio >> Express edition, and SQL Server Express and make better apps? >> For Free or at least not for 25k? >> >> Who uses Access anymore nowadays? >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>] On Behalf Of Axton >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:06 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose> >> Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build >> >> That initially means laying off and then eventually hiring >> people. >> This has some implications in terms of active development in >> the >> product lines and other things. Also, Microsoft has deep >> pockets. >> >> >> <http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded>http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded >> <http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608&mode=threaded> >> >> Can BMC weather the storm? Is bankruptcy an option? >> >> Seems like Microsoft got into some hot water over its >> licensing >> practices. Is this a healthy image or a good place to be >> in? >> >> <http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html>http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html >> >> Seems like there were problems as well: >> >> >> <http://news.cnet.com/Vista-views-Microsofts-license-changes/2009-1016_3->http://news.cnet.com/Vista-views-Microsofts-license-changes/2009-1016_3- >> 6126885.html >> >> Not advocating anything, just running the cards of the >> unspoken sides. >> Much of everything is in a trap, to varying degrees, just >> trying to >> drop all premonitions and have an open view of all sides. >> >> Axton Grams >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF >> 96 CS/SCCE >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose>> wrote: >> > Yes, of course. I already have considered existing >> forces. >> > >> > Think about it: BMC experiences a drop in revenue from >> support and a >> > drop in revenue in licensing initially. It then rebounds >> by VOLUME >> > sales of the ARS as a RAD toolset. >> > >> > Think about it: MICROSOFT DOES IT! Buy a copy of Visual >> Studio and it >> > comes with a license key in the manual. You can't install >> the software >> > without the license key. Bingo! Licensing problem >> (mostly) solved. >> > >> > Ever watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? Last >> night's episode is a >> > perfect example. Gordon shows up to a restaurant that >> does *some* >> > business but is, by no means, a booming business. >> Gordon tells the >> > owner, "You need to completely revamp your menu." The >> owner resists. >> > "No," he says, "I don't want to lose my EXISTING customer >> base by >> > changing." Gordon says, "Well then you'll never be >> successful." >> > >> > The moral of the story? Oftentimes you have to jettison an >> existing >> > mildly profitable (but declining) business model and >> swallow some losses >> > in order to go on to big time success. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com <http://www.rmsportal.com/> >> < <http://www.rmsportal.com/>http://www.rmsportal.com/> ARSlist: "Where >> the >> Answers Are" html___ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard Richter >> Red Hat Certified Technician >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >> ITIL Foundation Certified >> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <http://email.secureserver.net/compose.php#Compose> >> LinkedIn Profile = >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270>http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 >> __Platinum >> Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com <http://www.rmsportal.com/>ARSlist: "Where the >> Answers Are" html___ >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> _______ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> <http://www.arslist.org/> Platinum >> Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com <http://www.rmsportal.com/>ARSlist: "Where the >> Answers Are" >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> <http://www.arslist.org/> Platinum Sponsor: >> www.rmsportal.com <http://www.rmsportal.com/>ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> Are" >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> <http://www.arslist.org/> >> Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com <http://www.rmsportal.com/>ARSlist: >> "Where the Answers Are" >> >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> html___ >> >> > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
