I always assumed 1; wonder how many things I've missed over the years. If the patches are packaged in this manner, there shouldn't be a generic bucket of 'arserver' that entails clients, midtier, email, fb, approval, and so on. The word cumulative, when used in this way, is misleading, to say the least.
Axton Grams On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Note - I am the messenger here) > > Currently, patches are "cumulative" for a given component within a patch > - however, if a component is not modified in a patch, then it is not > included in that patch. For example (and this is a made up example): > > Patch 001 - User Tool, Mid-Tier and Server changed. Patch includes > folders for User Tool, Mid-Tier and Server > > Patch 002 - User Tool, Mid-Tier and Assignment Engine changed. Patch > includes folders for User Tool, Mid-Tier and Assignment Engine. User > Tool and Mid-Tier changes also include any changes done in Patch 001. > > Patch 003 - Mid-Tier, Assignment Engine and Server changed. Patch > includes folders for Mid-Tier, Assignment Engine and Server. Mid-Tier > also includes changes done in Patch 002 and Patch 001. Assignment > Engine also includes changes done in Patch 002. Server also includes > changes done in Patch 001. > > etc... > > So in this case, you'd need to install Patch 002 and 003 to get the > cumulative updates to each sub-component. You wouldn't have to install > Patch 001 because everything in Patch 001 (User Tool, Mid-Tier, Server) > was cumulatively updated in a later patch. > > With the newly developed installer being tentatively aimed for AR System > 7.5.00, BMC may have a chance to re-visit this approach. I'd certainly > be interested in the dialog around this if you all wish to discuss it. > Here's some points to consider: > > 1. Some consider "cumulative" to mean inclusive of all patches prior - > even those components that have not changed. > 2. However, including things that haven't changed from the last patch > could cause testing organizations to question that "nothing changed" and > therefore force a retest the component (and incur that expense) > 3. Some customers do not install the base product and then patch - they > go to the patch site and install the latest patch since it (typically) > contains every component needed. Knowing that a patch doesn't always > contain every component, sometimes this may require the installation > individual to get multiple patches to get all of the components. > > Other points, I'm sure, exist as well. > > Thanks, > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development > BMC Software, Inc. > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for > BMC Software, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: FBserver not in AR 7.1 patch 3 > > Patches are supposed to be cumulative though. If fb was in patch 2, I > would expect to see it in patch 3. > > Axton Grams > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Joe DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> ** >> Whats not there is not available for an upgrade.. It was the same >> thing with the Assignment Engine.. I think it was patch 2 that you >> didn't have the assignment engine component available for upgrade.. >> You aren't missing anything if you are concerned about that.. >> >> Cheers >> >> Joe >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Sree Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:35:16 PM >> Subject: FBserver not in AR 7.1 patch 3 >> >> Hello List, >> >> I dont find fbserver in AR7.1, can I user the installer AR 7.1 patch 2 > >> for installing that. >> >> please suggest. >> >> Sree >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> html___ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum > Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
