I didn't mean to make a dig at anyone.  If what I said gave you any offense I 
apologize because that was not my intent.  I was thinking more of my own 
reputation.  Sometimes I find it more interesting to participate in discussions 
that we all feel passionate about like this and say negative things about BMC 
than it is to answer questions about how to get the CI Viewer to display 
relationships between People and CIs, or troubleshoot why someone's AR Server 
is crashing.

In the past I worked somewhere that a person recognized my name from the 
ARSList.  Some managers who are clued in will look at the ARSList to see if you 
have posted here as part of the background check.  It's a good way to see what 
you know or don't know.  So it's best to keep in mind that this is a public 
list, archived on the internet, so what we say could come back to either make 
us look good or haunt us.  That's why I personally don't want to rant too much 
about BMC in this format, because you never know what the future holds.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson

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On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: It's official from the BMC UserWorld web site ... October 2009

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Now that's good arslisting .... the humor ... the slight outrage ... I didn't 
even mind Shawn's slight dig at me.  At least it was something.  We are alive !
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Robert Molenda <[EMAIL 
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<IMHO>
Been there - got the battle scars - burned the T-shirt...

Step back and "reverse the shoes" on this. Why hasn't BMC listened TO the List!

David Easter (Bless His Soul) does as best as he can... There are other BMC'er 
lurkers here as well.

When Remedy (BMC) promised "Easy Upgrades" we chuckled...
When Remedy (BMC) promised "easy patches" we laughed...

The ARSList has the "people in the trenches" - it is apparent that the BMC 
Consultants maybe are not - else the pressure would be placed internally - or 
they are happy with collection of the consulting fees?

So, when I signed up for this years RUG - I saw that "hotel construction" + 
"Florida in hurricane season" + <insert long list here> as a red flag...

Guess they listen to the "Wrong Convention Planners" or maybe the SIM Module 
was not correctly configured to have all the inter-relationships and 
dependencies in the CMDB? (Impact of Change to CI="Convention Hotel" has 
cascade of ?) Impact Analysis was set to low priority (Customer not attending 
convention and purchases vendor-X is impact-Y to BMC)? Service Level Agreements 
(and customer expectations) module not deployed?

It is not that we are not outraged and frustrated and would like to Kick some 
^^%%$# but what can we do? All of us make our livings on this product and we 
are the simple puppet in the controls of the master...

Unfortunately the Master has 'let the team down' due to unfortunate and 
"invisible to us" circumstances / decisions / choices...
</IMHO>

I am certain that IF the BUW was held this year it would have been quite 
impressive - and very memorable as the Fountain Blue hotel is a beauty in 
itself - Miami Beach - who could ask for more...

Unfortunately the winds of time and fortune did not blow our ways this year :(

Just an IHMO
HTH
Robert Molenda

PS> CU in 2009 [Hopefully]
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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Has anyone notice how 'un-arslist' this topic has been?  No one seems to care 
and BMC should be concerned about that.  The fact that no one wants to rant 
about it or even make jokes about it is so uncharacteristic of this group.  
This group gets heartburn on a drop of a dime usually.  Say it the wrong way 
and you get 60 replies!  What's going on?  I'm very disappointed in this whole 
affair.  Where's the spark?  Where's the outrage?  Not like you didn't see this 
possibility when you went to the hotel website after last year's RUG and found 
they were under construction .... red flag !!

Are there any plans to share with us any of the news that would have been 
shared in just a few short weeks?  Any podcasts planned?  Do you want the 
regional RUGS to start setting up something to provide this?  No one is 
thinking about these things at BMC?

Why not hold the RUG virtually?  Webex's of the sessions.  Giant webex's of the 
morning gathering.  You have the registrations so you know who would be a valid 
login.  Maybe use this as an opportunity for all customers to login even if 
they didn't register.  What a show of goodwill to the BMC customer community to 
do something like this.  Maybe if people get a taste of the sessions and the 
value they provide more would attend.

Of course I'm being selfish, I don't really care about the other products.  
They have to find people to push their cause.  I'm looking for the Remedy stuff 
!!

I'm sure there's a 100 people here that can think of additional ways to still 
pull this off.

Don't let BMC think we really don't care ....speak up.

Susan
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