Hi Nicky,

Responses inlined below.

Thanks,
Lyle

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicky Madjarov
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 75 Install and Database Administrator username/password

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Hi,

Just a few extra questions.

What's your oracle installation - remote or local? LRT: Remote
Do you have other remedy instances running on same oracle? LRT: Yes
Is it real server with static IP or a pc using DHCP? LRT: Real servers with 
static IPs (RAC)

I noticed few things that rise concerns:
1. dba has created the schema manually. The installer is looking for schemata 
owned by ARAdmin, so, if the dba has not made proper changes, the installer 
will not know which shema has (or will have) the AR System objects, also, in 
this case ARAdmin oracle user has to be created manually and given proper 
credentials. It may be one of the reasons the installer is asking for 
system/password.
LRT: There are multiple schemas on this server.  The installer looks for the 
schema associated with the login ID specified during installation.  This is 
ARAdmin by default, but we have specified ARAdmin7 for this schema.  According 
to the documentation, when installing onto an Oracle database on a RAC 
instance, it is necessary to create the tablespaces beforehand.  However, it 
appears that the issue so far is that it simply can't connect to the database, 
period.

2. the tnsnames.ora should be edited rather than created, there is one there 
already.
LRT: We don't use tnsnames; we use LDAP, so there was no tnsnames.ora file.

Check the following:

the tnsnames.ora should be in ....\oracle\product\10.2.0\server\NETWORK\ADMIN\
LRT: The file is in the correct location for our Oracle install.

Here is sample entry, in that case I enter XE in the installer when it asks for 
SID:
XE =
  (DESCRIPTION =
    (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = nickym-PC)(PORT = 1521))
    (CONNECT_DATA =
      (SERVER = DEDICATED)
      (SERVICE_NAME = XE)
    )
  )

LRT: I created an entry similar to this based on the output of the tnsping 
command.  I also created an entry in /etc/hosts for XE (a036 in our case) so 
that it could resolve that, and tried to use that as the server name in the 
installer.  I also tried specifying one of the actual hosts in the RAC for the 
server name, and that made no difference.  Basically, it seems to connect to 
something, but the connect descriptor it generates and tries to pass to the 
server process doesn't seem to be valid.

Regards,

Nicky Madjarov
phone: 973-202-4278
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lyle Taylor<mailto:[email protected]>
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: 75 Install and Database Administrator username/password

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I took a look at the installation log files, and it looks like it's actually 
not able to connect to the database to start with, so it probably thinks it 
needs to create a new schema, and that's why it's asking for the db 
administrator username/password.  This is what I'm seeing in the log file:

ORA-12505, TNS:listener does not currently know of SID given in connect 
descriptor
The Connection descriptor used by the client was
A036:1601:A036

I can tnsping A036 fine.  I've also created a tnsnames.ora file for it, just in 
case it doesn't like ldap, but based on what I see here, it kind of looks like 
it's not even trying to actually look up the service in ldap or tnsnames.  It 
looks like it's just going straight to the server and port and passing it this 
connect string, or something like that.  The connect string appears to be in 
this format:

<server>:<port>:<db instance>

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Lyle

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicky Madjarov
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 75 Install and Database Administrator username/password

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Hi,

If you can tnsping your instance you may be in good shape. Since ARAdmin has 
been (historically) the only dbo for ARSystem, I'd consider using different db 
user name for the 7.5. When you dba created a new schema did he/she changed the 
ownership to ARAdmin? I'd totally let the installer create schema and user, and 
then, if your dba is not happy, he/she can make changes.

Regards,

Nicky Madjarov
phone: 973-202-4278
Find out how to bust your AR System performance @
http://www.SpeedUpARS.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Lyle Taylor<mailto:[email protected]>
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: 75 Install and Database Administrator username/password

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Hi again all,

My experience with past installers was that if you were creating a new schema 
(for Oracle at least) from within the installer, it would prompt your for the 
database administrator username and password, but if you already had a schema, 
it would instead ask you if you want to overwrite, upgrade or share the 
database.  For 7.5, our DBA has created a new schema for us to install into, 
and in the 7.5 installer, I have entered the server, port and schema login 
information and then moved forward.  A couple screens later, it then asks me 
for the database administrator username and password.  Does the 7.5 installer 
_always_ ask for this, or does this mean that it may not be able to connect to 
the database using the information previously provided, causing it to think 
that we're creating a fresh new schema?

Note that one thing we did not do was create a tnsnames entry for the database, 
as we are using LDAP.  We did, however, create a DNS alias in /etc/hosts that 
cause our database name to resolve to the first host in our RAC.  Is a TNSNAMES 
entry absolutely essential?

Let me know if you need any further information.

Thanks,
Lyle


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