True enough, Jarl.  However, to clarify even further, John never said you 
*needed* XML Gateway.  You can always roll your own solution, and then maintain 
and support it throughout its life-cycle.

It's just nice to have a product that can do so many things -- not the least of 
which is to take advantage of JMS, along with a decoupled, message-based data 
infrastructure -- right off the shelf.


--Tim




________________________________
From: Jarl Grøneng <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:25:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Webservices

A clarification;
You does not need XML Gateway to de-couple systems, but still it is a
better system handling XML that the builtin support in AR System.


--
Jarl

2009/5/11 John Baker <[email protected]>:
> LJ,
>
> Error handling for webservices is virtually non-existent in the AR System.
> Our XML Gateway product handles this nicely for you with a message handling
> framework.
>
> Tim is right - webservices were a nice idea, but in practice, so much extra
> work needs to go around them to make them much use.  De-coupling systems via
> messaging is the best way forward, and one of our clients (with a little help
> from Tim) has done this very successfully.  The AR System is separated from
> Siebeil (if I recall) via a BEA Weblogic server and Java Messaging Services.
> The integration has failover, error handling, reporting, and all the things
> you'd expect from something designed for the real world.
>
> I'm happy to discuss it in more detail if you're interested.
>
>
> John
>
> --
> John Baker, Java System Solutions.
> http://www.javasystemsolutions.com
>
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