Thanks for the info Chris.  I would assume we would do the archive to 
delete from original.  What is the value of archiving, but not deleting? 
(maybe I'm missing something).  Wouldn't it still search all the data in 
the original form if it weren't deleted?





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If you are using the imbedded Archiving solution for AR System and you are 
doing an Archive Type of 'Copy to Archive', then creating a join does not 
make since because the data would still be in the original data form, so 
no need to a join. However, it you are doing a 'Copy to Archive and Delete 
form Source' then building a join is a good idea, however, doing a Join 
and choosing "Request ID" as the join criteria would not work. 

The problem is when the data moves to the Archive form the "Request ID" 
form the original data form is copied into a field called " Original 
Request ID" and the "Request ID" on the Archive form would never match the 
"Request ID" on the Original data form, as it gets a new "Request ID" when 
the record is moved to the Archive.  Second, for a join on fields to work 
there has to be matching data in those fields on both forms. 

What we did was to include a field called "Form Name" that held the name 
of the original data form in it and then we did the join criteria on that 
field.  However, you really need to be careful on doing reports off of 
this join form. I will give you duplicates.

For example on one of the Data form to Archive form joins we have the 
following counts:

A_Test_Data:             4,450,400
A_Test_Archive:          34
A_Test_JN:               151,313,600

If you do the math the 151,313,600 equals 4,450,400 x 34. So you really 
need to make sure when you are doing reports to use a lot of 
qualifications to eliminate getting duplicate records returned.



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I don't think it matters.  You can choose any field.
I have not tested it, but it should work and should be easy for you to
test.  I would choose RequestID as the join criteria and an inner
join.

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> > still archive old data.  What are other organizations doing?  Does
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