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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:05 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.5 architect based on system resources

Remember that ADDM needs its own SQL Server, using case sensitive
collation instead of the normal (default) case insensitive collation
that is preferred for the ARSystem database.  We have both the SQL
Server and the ADDM server on one box, and it registers some serious CPU
activity when a scheduled scan kicks off.

We evaluated Analytics and Dashboards last spring, and Analytics is
going to want its own SQL Server db, although it could be shared in the
same instance or a different instance of SQL Server on the db server you
use for AR System.  We found that you couldn't/shouldn't put any of the
mid-tier, Analytics, or Dashboards web servers on the same server with
each other; in particular, Analytics and mid-tier would not cohabit.

If I had to do it all on three boxes, I would expect that separating the
web components is the most problematic aspect:

1. AR System/AtriumCore/ITSM, Mid-Tier, Flashboards 2. SQL Server for AR
System, Analytics, and the Analytics server which includes BOXI server
3. SQL Server for ADDM, ADDM, and Dashboards (which points at the
ARSystem db)

If you decide to install the web services for AtriumCore 7.5, that needs
to be separate from the AR/ITSM server (requires Java 1.6) and you might
have problems finding a home for that on the other two boxes.  ADDM
requires Java 1.4.2_13 for its console (that's a whole 'nother topic).

The ideal would be to spin off all of the web servers to 3 separate
servers or VMs (4 with AtriumCore web services) for security and
maintenance reasons.  I have found that it is next to impossible to
upgrade any one BMC web component without disrupting any other that
shares the same web server, unless you run them on separate instances of
tomcat with non-standard ports.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Wangsameteegoon, Thitiwat 
> CTR JCS DOM
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: 7.5 architect based on system resources
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> We are planning to do a new install for ARS 7.5 plus the ITSM suite, 
> BMC Analytic as well Dashboard.  This roll out will also include ADDM,

> Atrium Discovery and Data Mapping.  Based on these lines of products 
> we will only have three beefed up servers to work with.  I was hoping 
> to get some assistance in deciding on the kind of servers architect 
> that I should setup for these kinds of environment based on the three 
> servers that we got.  We will be on a Window environment.
> 
> I am thinking about having ARS 7.5/ITSM/Analytic/Dashboard as well as 
> the supported SQL 2005 installed on the same server, midtier on its 
> own server, and ADDM as well as the support SQL 2005 installed on the 
> same server.  Initially I was thinking of having ARS 
> 7.5/ITSM/Analytic/Dashboard/and Midtier to be on the same server and 
> have SQL 2005 stand alone, but after communicating with BMC support 
> they sound like that may not be a good idea.  Below are questions that

> I have asked them along with their Reponses.  Any help or suggestion 
> based on past experience would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you
> ***************************************
> 
> 1. Is it better to setup Midtier on the apps server or put it on other

> two boxes I have described? My take is to install in on the apps 
> server, the same box as ARS System, ITSM, etc.
> 
> ANS: It's your call where to install the MidTier, but as a rule it is 
> better not to install it on same system as the AR Server.
> Some obvious reasons being if you wanted to recycle MT/Webserver, the 
> reboot would mean bringing down AR Server.
> And you'll need more memory.
> 
> 2. Is there any gotcha or things that I need to be aware of if I plan 
> to install Midter on the same system as the ARS Server?
> 
> Answer: One I can think of is: If applying a new patch to Mid Tier 
> (and not AR Server) becomes necessary......--  you'll have to 
> worry/make sure the PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable points to the 
> right spot, for Mid-tier libraries.
> 
> 3. The recommendation of the SDK version that I should use?
> 
> Answer: Our compatibility matrix states: You need 32 bit version of 
> JDK
> 1.5.0_12 or higher.
> 
> 4. Email will also required JRE, will installing SDK conflict with it?
> 
> Answer: Yes, that's a concern. You'll have to worry about JRE and JDK 
> if you have MT on same box as AR Server.
> 
> So in a nutshell, It's better to install MT on a different box. Let me

> know if that helps.

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