You can create many farms on a single F5 (of any type you choose). If one arserver is down, things should just keep working as if nothing were wrong. If you are going with a farm with many active nodes, I do not see the need for MS Clustering.
Axton Grams The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Martin Liu <[email protected]> wrote: > ** Thanks you all! > > I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm. > > What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for > ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My > customer is primarily using Web client. > > Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for > ARS. Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS > server down, the whole system is still working. > > Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS > servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server > down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will > still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc... > Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view? > > I will post F5 device model that you may know. > > Best regards! > Martin > > > > > 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver <[email protected]> >> >> ** >> You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to >> pull together the info in all the various install manuals - >> http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841 >> >> Kelly Deaver >> Effective Technologies >> www.effect-tech.com >> >> [email protected] (ARSlist mail) >> [email protected] (Business mail) >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? >> From: "Garrison, Sean (Norcross)" <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm >> To: [email protected] >> >> True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if >> one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy >> because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We >> tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for >> one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App >> server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio >> and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot >> backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down. >> >> What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app >> servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup >> environment in another location. >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Axton >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture? >> >> One more thing to add. You need to configure health checks in the F5 >> for the midtier and arserver nodes. I have not fully vetted any of >> these approaches, but these are my thoughts: >> >> ARS: >> 1. port check (this mostly works) >> 2. iRules in the F5 to simulate a session >> >> Midtier: >> 1. HTTP post to a page that the web server displays >> 2. HTTP post to a page that the servlet container renders (midtier config) >> 3. HTTP post to a page that the midtier renders (home page) >> 4. port check >> >> Axton Grams >> >> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed >> in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. >> My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a >> role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for >> BMC Software, Inc. >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote: >> > For ARS: >> > - Create an F5 farm for udp/111, tcp/111, and the port ars listens on >> > - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed due to floating >> > licenses) >> > - Configure a server group in ARS >> > >> > For MidTier: >> > - Create and F5 farm for tcp/80 and tcp/443 >> > - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed because midtier >> > does not synchronize/use central store for session information) >> > >> > When you configure the midtier as to what arservers to point to, there >> > are a couple of options: >> > - point it to the ars farm: this causes issues because all midtier >> > sessions go to the same arserver >> > - point each midtier server to the individual server >> > >> > When working with the F5, you need the arservers to be on a network >> > that gives a route to the db that does not traverse the F5. This is >> > typically accomlished using a back end network that the arservers and >> > db servers are connected to. >> > >> > Axton Grams >> > >> > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed >> > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. >> > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a >> > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for >> > BMC Software, Inc. >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Martin Liu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ** Hi List, >> >> >> >> I have two physical windows machines running ARS. >> >> >> >> Another two machines behind F5 are installed Mid-tier, they will >> >> connect to >> >> ARS. >> >> >> >> The customer have HA requirement for ARS. I could have two options: >> >> 1)MS >> >> Windows Cluster; 2)Remedy server group. >> >> >> >> But I don't know how to configure for HA architecture. Any advice? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> 刘征 Martin Liu >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> Blog: http://martinliu.cn >> >> _Platinum Sponsor: [email protected] ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> >> Are"_ >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> Platinum Sponsor:[email protected] ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> >> _Platinum Sponsor: [email protected] ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> Are"_ > > > -- > Regards, > > 刘征 Martin Liu > ---------------------------------- > Blog: http://martinliu.cn > _Platinum Sponsor: [email protected] ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:[email protected] ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

