You can create many farms on a single F5 (of any type you choose).  If
one arserver is down, things should just keep working as if nothing
were wrong.  If you are going with a farm with many active nodes, I do
not see the need for MS Clustering.

Axton Grams

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On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Martin Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
> ** Thanks you all!
>
> I learned a lot from you guys. But I still got something to confirm.
>
> What I have: 1) 4 physical machines MS Windows OS(2 for Mid-tier, 2 for
> ARS); 2) One physical F5 device; 3)One Oracle RAC hosting DB for ARS. My
> customer is primarily using Web client.
>
> Q1)Can I create two farms on one single F5 device? one for Mid-tier; one for
> ARS.  Does this configuration have HA capability for ARS? I mean if one ARS
> server down, the whole system is still working.
>
> Q2)Does MS cluster provide one single entry and HA function for two ARS
> servers? I mean two ARS servers within one server group. If one ARS server
> down, MS cluster will switch to another ARS server. And this server will
> still pick up Administrative Operations, Escalation, Reconciliation, etc...
> Does MS cluster service equal to a F5 device from HA point view?
>
> I will post F5 device model that you may know.
>
> Best regards!
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/5 Kelly Deaver <[email protected]>
>>
>> **
>> You may find this presentation handy as well. It was my attempt to
>> pull together the info in all the various install manuals -
>> http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-2841
>>
>> Kelly Deaver
>> Effective Technologies
>> www.effect-tech.com
>>
>> [email protected] (ARSlist mail)
>> [email protected] (Business mail)
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture?
>> From: "Garrison, Sean (Norcross)" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Fri, December 04, 2009 3:12 pm
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> True high availability allows your server to still be up and running if
>> one of the locations goes down. This is pretty much impossible with remedy
>> because the app server is highly dependent on the connection to the db. We
>> tried it with one of our remote locations and it took 45 minutes just for
>> one app server to start because the DB was located in Georgia and the App
>> server was in Ohio. Our ultimate solution was to replicate the db to ohio
>> and use the app servers in ohio (connecting to a local db in ohio) as hot
>> backups just in case the ones in georgia goes down.
>>
>> What Axton said below is pretty much our setup (except we have 3 app
>> servers and 4 mid-tier). The only thing we added was a hot backup
>> environment in another location.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Axton
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: How to implement HA architecture?
>>
>> One more thing to add. You need to configure health checks in the F5
>> for the midtier and arserver nodes. I have not fully vetted any of
>> these approaches, but these are my thoughts:
>>
>> ARS:
>> 1. port check (this mostly works)
>> 2. iRules in the F5 to simulate a session
>>
>> Midtier:
>> 1. HTTP post to a page that the web server displays
>> 2. HTTP post to a page that the servlet container renders (midtier config)
>> 3. HTTP post to a page that the midtier renders (home page)
>> 4. port check
>>
>> Axton Grams
>>
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>> BMC Software, Inc.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > For ARS:
>> > - Create an F5 farm for udp/111, tcp/111, and the port ars listens on
>> > - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed due to floating
>> > licenses)
>> > - Configure a server group in ARS
>> >
>> > For MidTier:
>> > - Create and F5 farm for tcp/80 and tcp/443
>> > - Enable session persistence based on src ip (needed because midtier
>> > does not synchronize/use central store for session information)
>> >
>> > When you configure the midtier as to what arservers to point to, there
>> > are a couple of options:
>> > - point it to the ars farm: this causes issues because all midtier
>> > sessions go to the same arserver
>> > - point each midtier server to the individual server
>> >
>> > When working with the F5, you need the arservers to be on a network
>> > that gives a route to the db that does not traverse the F5.  This is
>> > typically accomlished using a back end network that the arservers and
>> > db servers are connected to.
>> >
>> > Axton Grams
>> >
>> > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
>> > in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
>> > My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
>> > role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
>> > BMC Software, Inc.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Martin Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> ** Hi List,
>> >>
>> >> I have two physical windows machines running ARS.
>> >>
>> >> Another two machines behind F5 are installed Mid-tier, they will
>> >> connect to
>> >> ARS.
>> >>
>> >> The customer have HA requirement for ARS. I could have two options:
>> >> 1)MS
>> >> Windows Cluster; 2)Remedy server group.
>> >>
>> >> But I don't know how to configure for HA architecture. Any advice?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> 刘征 Martin Liu
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