Susan,

If you unzip the jar file we are told its in there.you could even unzip it
on your workstation and get the binary to the server yourself you were so
inclined.  The archgid utility is designed to update ALL of the places that
need it updated, anywhere there is a reference, that's why I would recommend
doing it.if you use this approach you wouldn't need to reload any data.

 

All of that aside, why weren't you able to do the upgrade?

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ARS v7.5 - importing forms changed Table ID

 

** 

I had 400+ forms to import and what it did was give them sequential numbers.
Usually I've just copied the database over but with the old vs new version
that was not going to work.  I can't say I gave the table ID much thought
ahead of time but will certainly remember going forward.

 

So all the table IDs I want to use are already used.  But the good news is
there are really only about 10 tables I have to manipulate.

 

I did a quick survey of the other application owners and there's a mixed bag
with several using Table IDs.

 

My choices appear to be:

 

1.  Use archgid to change the wrong table to a new number and then change
the right table to the number it should be.  But I cannot find archgid on
the server, where to get it in the KB.  There was a post about using the
windows_zg_ia_sf.jar file which I have but I have to get the server guys to
put it on the unix server.  And then I guess magically I'll find archgid
there.  Does archgid change all the related table IDs, T, H, B etc?

 

2.  I think it was Fred's idea to basically delete the wrong forms in
question.  Reset set the Table ID and then import them individually after
each required Table ID reset.  I assume that I reset the Table ID in the
database.  Rather than play around maybe someone could provide the correct
sql statement.  I'd have to reimport the workflow objects etc also and the
11hrs worth of data which of course is on one of the forms will need to be
recopied over.  But I figure I only have in the neighborhood of 200 hrs of
data to move so that's not the worst of it.

 

#1 sounds good and I have some garbage forms to test it on.  Any other last
thoughts?

 

Is the table ID buried in anything else?  I have only seen the schema name
in workflow and checked but didn't see anything obvious that might be a
cross reference.

 

I really do appreciate the input.  These are the kinds of things you want to
talk over.  Ok, so I do talk to myself but sometimes I'm not as creative as
you !

 

Thanks,

Susan

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>
wrote:

** 

 LJ, 

I don't disagree...I am just saying that using that function of archig may
still pose a risk, since it is probably not used often, even though it seems
a small risk.
But if I ever had to change the table ID, I would use the archig utility, I
would not do the manual updates at all.....

Susan: 

Yet another option is to create a database view with the schemaid you would
like,provided of course there is no tabeld with that ID. So for instance
let's sat you have table T500 and you would like T300, check whether there
is a table T300, and if not, create a daatbase view caleld T300 that referes
to table T500. This way, you don't need to change anything on the Remedy
structures.

Guillaume

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:15 AM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

** That is always a chance.but I would trust archgid more than I would trust
me doing it manually..and I agree with your assessment, TID should NEVER be
used in direct SQL..I ALWAYS recommend using View names instead of table
ids..still fragile, but less so that table id J

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