Thank you for starting the new topic, Matt.

Before we begin develop a standard, let's address questions regarding the 
relevance of data to be captured in the database id.

Assumptions
Given the range of database ids is 600,000,000 to 999,999,999:
The first digit may contain the numerals 6-9.
The other 8 digits may contain numerals 0-9.
2-3 digits should be allowed for sequential numbering.  They are relevant to 
the form, other fields on the form, and duplication across forms.

What data do we want to convey?  I think these are the most important pieces of 
data, but I might be wrong.

1.      Application (Asset, Request Mgt, Change, Archive, Custom)

2.      Field Usage (i.e. a zTmp field has vastly different usage than a 
Request ID field.  Some forms can hold 3 or 4 Request IDs, and they ought to be 
noted.)

3.      Is it useful to denote fields used on multiple forms?

What data do we NOT want to preserve?

1.      I don't believe that the creator of the information is particularly 
important for shared files.  Do we want to waste precious digits when authoring 
rights can be captured in Help Text or Change Log?

2.      Same for Field Type.  That data is included in the definition file.  I 
don't care whether it's a character field or an enumerated field, but I'd like 
to know the impact of changing the field.

How are we able to convey that information?
How do we want to organize the information in our allotted 9 digits?

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** I have commitment from a manager in BMC Engineering to share ideas (he 
actually proposed his help while looking at ARSList - great!)

I have drafted something to begin 
with<https://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-16743>.
Please check it out, and share your thoughts.

  *   Add a Comment if you want to send a heads-up
  *   Edit the Doc directly (yes, wikipedia-style), should you be able to make 
things progress directly (for example, I asked questions where some of you may 
also have the answers)
This is a great Use Case showing how powerful the Remedy Developer Community 
is, I'm really excited by this 1st topic.

Take care, Matt
Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities
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On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Jason Miller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
**
Joe, you nailed it (although I did get Jennifer's joke too).  There are so many 
communities where you can download code/functions/scripts/etc for other 
languages but there isn't one for Remedy; well it is there just not actively 
used in this manner.  There are a few apps/utilities on the BMCDN but not as 
many as I think a lot of us would like to see.

Now to be perfectly honest, I have a few utilities that I have been meaning to 
post to the BMCDN for a few years now (the data export one is sad without 
runmacro.exe).  We have seen arswiki.org<http://arswiki.org> come and go.  
Axton provided the site for years and there just wasn't enough involvement to 
keep the site up (I am guilty too).

I am fearful that the same will happen with ARInside.  I see John making 
updates when he has some time but can it survive as a one or two person 
project?  Personally I would love to help out and even installed a compiler a 
while back to work on my limited C++ skills.  Years, work, new laptop without 
compiler, and grade school aged kids later I still have not contributed any 
code to the project.

Don't get me wrong, always having sanctioned/paid work (and a family) that 
pushes aside community projects is not a bad problem to have.

  *   Is it that we are all just too busy?
  *   Is it a ratio thing in that we are such a small community compared to 
Java/C++/HTML/PowerShell/<insert platform of choice> communities that we just 
don't have enough people to contribute a decent volume of projects?
  *   Is it that we cannot share what we build because it was done on somebody 
else's time/system?
  *   Would it help if there was an AR MSDN like subscription that we have been 
asking for for a few years?

     *   I think this is related to the somebody else's time/system question.  
I know I can't afford to develop AR Applications without my employer's 
resources (servers, support contract).
     *   Now with today's virtualization, hosted technologies and the Suite 
Stack Installer it would be easier than ever to provide this resource.  Maybe a 
downloadable VM appliance (ADDM anybody?).  I understand there are licensing 
issues with distributing other companies' software (Windows/MS SQL/Oracle).  
Maybe it is time for a MySQL version of AR? :)
Hopefully now that we have a Community Ambassador we can get some of these 
things moving. ;-)

Jason
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