The list should have "Troll-Tags" like "Deer-Tags". Dan B. can be the game
warden.
Sounds like you may be getting close to busting one!

Back to the peanut gallery,
-JDHood


On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> Pretty sure.  I have been wrong before, but I did some research before I
> said that, and I think I know your real name and where you live. As has been
> said before, if you need to be anonymous for whatever reason, it isn't a
> huge deal, and I won't share what I think your real name is here.
> Threatening other people over it is.  We are a community here.  You
> obviously have the technical skills and experience to be a valued member
> here.  The only question is your attitude toward others.  Might suggest you
> focus on that.
>
> Rick
> On Oct 15, 2011 3:03 PM, "John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Really Rick?  Are you certain?
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Rick Cook <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:40 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: John Doe
>>
>> **
>> It isn't his real name, LJ.   You didn't do anything wrong.
>> Rick
>> On Oct 15, 2011 10:26 AM, "LJ LongWing" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> **
>> I did ask if that was your real name…this is the first time I have seen
>> that you said it is…I was simply curious and asked a question.  Sorry that
>> you consider that question harassment.  I’ll consider the matter closed if
>> you would like.****
>> ** **
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Doe
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:50 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>> ** **
>> ** ****
>> Joe,
>>
>> You logic is off. How do I know your real name is Joe? I don't and neither
>> of you know if my real name is NOT Jonathan Doe. There are a few people who
>> have that name. But see I don't accuse you of this as you both have now
>> done.
>>
>> If your way of saying hello is accusing someone of hiding their real name
>> when it might be their real name then you have some serious problems. This
>> has nothing to do with the subject matter, sorry.
>>
>> I have identified myself and you continually harass me. It doesn't matter
>> how senior you are harassment is harassement and I am asking nicely to
>> please stop.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jonathan Doe****
>> ** **
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>;
>> *To: *<[email protected]>;
>> *Subject: *Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9
>> *Sent: *Fri, Oct 14, 2011 5:30:41 PM ****
>>  ****
>> LJ has been known to this forum for a few years and I can assure you he
>> doesn’t harass people participating on here..****
>>  ****
>> It is one of the forums etiquette if you are not aware, to identify
>> yourself instead of coming in as John Smith. Dan Bloom the founder of this
>> list had compiled a few list etiquette a few years ago, and identifying
>> yourself was one of them. If you do not wish to identify because it may be
>> against your corporation policies or whatever other reasons, you could say
>> so and we all understand that, but its presumptions to assume that a long
>> timer such as LJ is harassing you by asking to identify yourself.. Its an
>> attempt to keep this list not just rich in its technical content, but to
>> build a true social circle of Remedy professionals..****
>>  ****
>> I do understand you may be relatively new on here so may not be aware of
>> this lists etiquettes, but I’m sure Dan would be happy to send them to you
>> if you do wish to go through them..****
>>  ****
>> Cheers****
>>  ****
>> Joe****
>>  ****
>> *From:* John Doe ****
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 12:59 PM****
>> *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general****
>> *To:* [email protected] ****
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>>  ****
>> ** ****
>> What does my login ID have to do with the subject matter, sir?
>> Please do not harass fellow posters or it will be reported.
>> Thank you.****
>>  ****
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *LJ LongWing <[email protected]>;
>> *To: *<[email protected]>;
>> *Subject: *RE: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9
>> *Sent: *Fri, Oct 14, 2011 3:29:30 PM ****
>> John,****
>> I noticed your name on the list a few days ago, and thought to myself ‘who
>> is that, why are they trying to hide’…so I looked back through the archives
>> and found posts going back to Feb timeframe…and all of the post I found are
>> well worded and such….just wondering if your name really is John Doe, or if
>> you have a different name that you are hiding for some reason.****
>>  ****
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Doe
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 8:29 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>>  ****
>> ** ****
>> Oh Matt...here we go again my friend, ****
>>  ****
>> Unfortunately, this compatibility matrix answer falls into the all to
>> familiar category of "latest versions and higher are supported."  This was
>> also the answer to Windows 2008 server 64 bit.  Because the compatibility
>> matrix states as long as the VENDOR does not significantly change their
>> software higher versions are supported.  When is their a higher version not
>> supported?  Answer - there isn't a time. Respectfully, this falls under the
>> SDLC of release it and the community will find the bugs.    I never used to
>> see this happen before the exponential growth of ARS into the BMC movement.
>> Mostly, after 7.6.  I understand with growth, this happens.  But at what
>> point to engineers tell management this type of reasoning does not work in
>> the technical world?  I appreciate the need to grow.  Certainly, but at what
>> cost?  Why did Firefox become a replacement for IE?  IE had much larger
>> growth.  The answer is because Firefox was engineered better and due to this
>> performed better on javascript.  Sometimes, it is not always about growth.
>> ****
>>  ****
>> In the case of Windows 2008 server 64 bit the OS location for the ODBC
>> drivers (folder location) were changed.  This was not caught when you would
>> think, during testing of the product.  We (the customer) caught this after
>> the official release.  We filed an RFE, which has been out in RFE land
>> somewhere since.  The official explanation and fix was blamed on Microsoft
>> because, you guessed it, they changed the software.  My question is, when is
>> it ever BMC's responsibility to test the software for complete compatibility
>> prior to release.  Not just operational compatibility?  Since this fell
>> under the statement "compatible unless the vendor has any significant
>> changes" we fell under the party line of "it's compatible".  When we
>> demonstrated the incompatibility with the ODBC we were met with silence.  As
>> seems to be a popular technique currently employed by premier support.  I
>> mean no disrespect because I know those engineers are doing the best they
>> can.  But they are handcuffed.  ****
>>  ****
>> I am not trying to sandbag here.  What I am trying to say is that
>> statement on the compatibility matrix is a catch all and an example of a
>> greater problem.  If you use that statement, one could logically say that as
>> long as the date/version of the vendor's release is a higher more current
>> version, BMC is compatible.  Which is extremely presumptuous and the flaw
>> with that logic is demonstrated above.  That is just one of so many
>> examples.  This is the unfortunate case with the compatibility matrix and
>> strategically, BMC currently.  I understand your explanation Matt.  I
>> respect it.  However, it's just not technically sound from an engineer
>> standpoint. It is sales and management coating over a technical flaw with
>> the system.  A wise salesman once told me, never invite engineers to a
>> demo.  Why?  Because sales explanations are not compatible with engineers.
>> ****
>>  ****
>> Back to the point.  In order for this compatibility matrix statement to
>> really work, Microsoft, Oracle/Sun and Red Hat would need to go to BMC and
>> explain every change that was made to the OS (and DB's etc).  I don't
>> believe that will happen and honestly, BMC has probably realized this too.
>> BMC is a one customer among millions to these companies. However, in lue of
>> this, complete and correctly engineered test scenarios would catch things
>> like ODBC folders simply being placed in a different directory. Instead this
>> compatibility matrix is the fix.  I am not trying to be blunt or short in
>> any way but I have seen this become the standard answer from BMC during 7.5
>> and after 7.6 release.  Unfortunately, it appears the user community is
>> becoming the test engineers for BMC. ****
>>  ****
>> Matt, this is one of the specific problems we spoke about in the other
>> posts.****
>>  ****
>>  ****
>>  ****
>>  ****
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* "Chowdhury, Tauf" <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 8:31 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>> ** ****
>> You’re a lucky man. ****
>>  ****
>> *T**auf** **C**howdhury** **|** **F**orest** **L**aboratories**, **I**nc.
>> *****
>> Service Portfolio Manager****
>> Infrastructure – Service Management****
>> Office: 631.858.7765****
>>  ****
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Shafqat Ayaz
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 4:22 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>>  ****
>> ** ****
>> I have been using IE9 with Windows 7 with ITSM 7.6.04 without any problems
>> for a while now.****
>>  ****
>> *
>>
>> Shafqat Ayaz*
>>
>> ****
>>  ****
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Jason Miller <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:03 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>> ** ****
>> Could these tips be added to a BMCDN document to make them available
>> without having to open a support issue?****
>>
>> Jason****
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Matt Laurenceau <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> ** ****
>> The "or higher" statement on the compatibility matrix is the answer: IE9
>> is supported :)****
>>  ****
>> BMC Support has tips to optimize performances.****
>>  ****
>> Take care,
>>
>> Matt Laurenceau****
>> Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities****
>> [email protected]****
>> Follow me @Matt_L****
>> Skype: matt.laurenceau****
>>  ****
>>
>> On 12 oct. 2011, at 20:54, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> ** ****
>> There have been posts that there are problems with ITSM 7.6.04 and IE 9
>> Whether ITSM 7.6.00 is compatible with IE 9... you may be the first one to
>> find out!
>>
>> Guillaume****
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> [email protected]] on behalf of Spangler Robert C CIV USSTRATCOM/JWAC [
>> [email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:30 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version 9****
>> ** ****
>> We are getting ready to upgrade to Windows 7 and Internet Explorer version
>> 9.  Does ARS 7.5 and ITSM 7.6 support these?  Thanks****
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