as a matter a fact when we DSO all incidents, Changes and Assets..
How is this gunna work.

That will bring my numbers up a little..

Is there a special Procedure for these ?
Considering this is for an Important BMC client...


On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave:
> Question: is there a way to add DSO fields into a form without overlays?
> IF not then why were are not these fields added by BMC and made the core
> before I have to do an overlay?
> DSO is bmc's product, so I think this might just have been an overlook in
> the release of the product?
> What about AIE? is AIE in the same boat?
> What about IBRSD? is this in the same boat? just asking..
>
> I could use a little clarification..
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well if you do DSO you have to change the form to get the DSO fields into
>> the FORM...
>> So I do not know where you go with that...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Easter, David <david_eas...@bmc.com>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Primary reason is that you shouldn’t be modifying quite a few forms…
>>> Best practice recommendation is:****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> **1.       **Utilize the OOTB products as delivered as much as
>>> possible.  ****
>>>
>>> **2.       **If a change in functionality is needed, *add* to the
>>> application – not modify.  Create new fields and workflow rather than
>>> modifying existing  objects.****
>>>
>>> **3.       **If and only if you cannot achieve desired capabilities by
>>> extending the application, then utilize overlays to modify the provided BMC
>>> object.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> In addition, were overlays provided OOTB, then you’d have hundreds (if
>>> not thousands) of overlays that are exactly the same as the base objects.
>>> Since the goal is to have overlays only for those objects that are modified
>>> (in fact, best practice is to delete any overlays that are not needed), the
>>> value of overlays would be diminished.  Overlays should be there only for
>>> objects that are modified so that they are kept to a minimum and quickly
>>> identifiable. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> -David J. Easter****
>>>
>>> Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform****
>>>
>>> BMC Software, Inc.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
>>> in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
>>> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
>>> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
>>> Inc.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:18 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - dev studio (read only) cannot add fields****
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>> ** ****
>>>
>>> Dumb Question:  so If you always have to do this:: Why didn't bmc in its
>>> wisdom create all forms with overlays automatically, since that is all you
>>> can change..  I am modifying quiet a few forms and my thinking cap is
>>> thinking  8-)****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Zandi
>>
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