I don't see the future as bright for the Sparc line when I see numbers like these: http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh032612-story09.html
They are also pushing Hitachi and Fujitsu out of the equation because it is not as profitable (per this article). How long do you think Oracle will keep an unprofitable business line around? From what I've observed, Oracle doesn't seem to have much of an appetite for things that don't make money. Sun did a lot of innovative things with Solaris. I don't see that continuing under Oracle, except to the extent that the innovations aid appliance/database performance. Sadly, when it comes to operating systems, application performance is only a small part of what makes a good operating system. At the end of the day, it is what it is. I don't think any of the paths for Sun were good. I suppose I liked Sun for doing innovative things, even when they weren't profitable. They developed and shaped a lot of what we all use today. Sadly, their contributions are not what Wall Street or investors were looking for. Research and development has a very specialized application in a market economy. In the free market/capitalist paradigm, leaps and bounds in progress are hard to make. A constant churn of small developments with a contained shelf-life, backed by aggressive marketing, are much more in line with the values of that system. Axton Grams The statements in this message are my opinion and don't necessarily reflect the values, opinions, or beliefs of anyone or anything else. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>wrote: > ** > Hi Axton, > > At the time Sun was on sale, my understanding was the first potential > buyer was IBM, then Oracle jumped in. > I truly believe that IBM getting Sun would have been much worse, since > they already have hardware (server and storage) a UNIX OS, database, etc. > I think the only thing from Sun that would have survived with IBM would > have been Java. Similar situation I think if HP had acquired Sun... They > probably would have kept more software than IBM for a while longer until > they figured what to do with it... > > Oracle has certainly chopped several pieces, but I think the alternative > would have been much worse. > > My $0.02 > > Guillaume > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > [email protected]] on behalf of Axton [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:13 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart > > ** Publicly traded companies are much easier to acquire. It takes less > convincing and more coercing. With a private company, there is usually a > person or small group of people that have to be convinced to sell, and it's > not always about the money; i.e., you can't buy what is not for sale. > > Oracle buying Sun is a good thing? I'm sad to see that so many great > things have died or are dying on the vine. I'm sad to see the people that > made or use these technologies alienated from them. Most of the talent that > made those things what they are seem to have left the building. > http://blogs.computerworld.com/16741/oracle_dumps_opensolaris > > http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/hardware-systems-support-policies-069182.pdf > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/suns-stars-where-are-they-now-and-why-did-they-leave-765 > > http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/enderle/oracle-s-40-percent-hardware-slide-is-sun-doa/?cs=46335 > > http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/20/oracle-claims-android-is-stealing-javas-traditionally-strong-phone-tv-and-tablet-market-share-really-guys/ > > http://www.java.net/forum/topic/javadesktop/java-desktop-technologies/java-3d/unsigned-entry-j3dcorejar > > My two cents. > > Axton Grams > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** >> I don't think Oracle is interested at all in acquiring BMC, I don't think >> t would be a good fit for either one. >> However, it was a very good thing that Oracle got Sun, including all the >> hardware (SPARC, storage, etc) and all the software (Java, Solaris, etc). >> Looks like the only part that is not clear in that acquisition is mySQL, >> we'll see. >> >> Will BMC buy Kinetic? hmmmm >> >> IBM was in the ITSM game a long time ago with Tivoli.... that's been dead >> for a long time, I don't think it will resuscitate ever. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >> [email protected]] on behalf of Gordon Frank [[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:25 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart >> >> ** >> >> When does BMC buy out Kinetic? Any bets? This seems to be the trend. >> Might be a good thing. >> >> >> >> Here's one: When does Oracle buy out BMC? Peoplesoft, Sun, Java, Remedy, >> Kinetic, >> Numara, Business Objects - TBD, when does SAP say enough?. Of course then >> Microsoft will >> >> include it all in their new Operating System. Where's a good Google >> attack when you need >> >> one. Google as bundled everything else, why not Service Management too? >> >> >> >> Maybe it's time for IBM to get back in the game. They are still the >> silent one that most >> >> businesses are still using. >> >> >> >> To quote the Wicked Witch of the West, "Whata World, Whata World!" >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Rick Sharp" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, March 23, 2012 10:20:29 PM >> *Subject: *Re: Kinetic Request at WalMart >> >> OMG .... >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Sundberg <[email protected]> >> Sender: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" < >> [email protected]> >> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:55:12 >> To: <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Subject: Kinetic Request at WalMart >> >> According to this google search - I can get Kinetic Request at WalMart. I >> might just swing by this weekend and ask the greeter where I can pick up a >> copy. >> >> :) >> >> -John >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" >> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
