CanOfWorms=open ;) On Apr 1, 2012 10:23 AM, "Shellman, David" <dave.shell...@te.com> wrote:
> ** > It was a good one. Yet it makes one think that having Developer Studio > run in a tablet environment would be a nice concept. > > Dave > > On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:41 PM, "arslist" <arsl...@danielbloom.ca> wrote: > > ** > > Based on the GPS you could also tell the Developers just how lost they are. > **** > > ** ** > > You can use the Bluetooth to link to any handy screen, say you are at a > film in an IMAX theatre,**** > > just about big enough to see what you are doing without using the NASA > wall of screens J**** > > ** ** > > Nice one David, happy April Fools Day!**** > > ** ** > > Daniel**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Easter, David > *Sent:* April 1, 2012 10:20 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > Personally, I think the discussion has been great so far – but what hasn’t > come up yet are ideas around what I think will be the biggest next step in > Developer Studio… getting it to work well on smartphones like the iPhone or > the newly redesigned RAZR. I’ve been talking to some of our big customers > and they all seem to be saying the same thing – the trend toward “OOTB” > applications is declining, so they want to make their environments as > unique as possible as quickly as possible. Being able to modify workflow > and processes on-the-fly from a remote location with minimal (or no) review > from a Change Approval Board (CAB) will ensure that one person’s opinion > can instantly be realized across a broad set of end users in all facets the > company. Getting Dev Studio as mobile as possible would be a way to meet > that business need.**** > > ** ** > > To be able to do this, Dev Studio would need to become even simpler to > use. Since the screen is going to be pretty small for development, one > idea is to integrate closely with voice recognition systems like Siri. As > Siri’s database of recognized terms increases, it should be possible for > Siri to recognize 5GL programming statements, thus reducing the programming > knowledge needed to make changes to an app even further. For example, one > should be able just to say “Siri – Add a field to track number of abandoned > tickets between the Company Name field and the Price field” or “Add a > qualification to the filter on the Priority field to reduce the number > entered by one if a submitter is in the ‘Director or higher’ permission > group”. That way, you wouldn’t even need a GUI - so the issues around > getting Dev Studio to fit on a screen become moot. I’m pretty sure that > other smartphone vendors will be copying Siri’s concept pretty soon, so > that the implementation can be cross platform.**** > > ** ** > > For those that do want to use a GUI, I was thinking that the accelerometer > could be really good for getting a field into the right location on the > screen. Just tip the smartphone in the direction you want to move the > field and it will “bump” into other fields, moving them out of the way and > making room for your new field. Then just tap the phone gently to get it > back into the right location and then save your work. Want to delete a > field? Just select it and then shake the phone like a whip to “throw” it > out of the display.**** > > ** ** > > The camera is really useful as well. For example, when end users find a > GUI that has the look and feel that they want for your remedy app, I was > thinking they could just use the camera to “scan” that UI and send it back > to AR System. Then Dev Studio would automatically rework the application > to use the same color scheme, icons, fonts, etc. It could create a > different view for every scan that was submitted, enabling every user to > have their own personalized “skin” for your standardized enterprise > business application.**** > > ** ** > > I’m not exactly sure how to use the GPS function yet, but perhaps the > Remedy Developer’s location could be tracked real-time. That way when the > developer is moving around and they get close to someone who has ideas of > how to change the application, an alert could be immediately sent to the > developer – giving them a chance to stop by the idea-person’s cube to > discuss that person’s latest opinions on what could be done to improve the > app. Since Dev Studio would be mobile, those changes could be put in place > right away – increasing end-user satisfaction.**** > > ** ** > > Anyway, I’m sure all of these concepts can be further discussed at the > WWRUG12 panel, which is coming pretty soon. Today being April 1st, > that’s only about 6 ½ months away.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > -David J. Easter**** > > Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform**** > > BMC Software, Inc.**** > > **** > > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in > this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc or > reality. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to > convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison, prankster or public relations > representative for BMC Software, Inc.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Guillaume Rheault > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 6:49 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > Hola Jose > > Thanks for the clarification, you make interesting points. > We know that David Easter monitors the ARS list, so maybe he can chime in > on what he thinks about this.... > > Guillaume**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Jose Huerta [jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es] > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 5:14 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool**** > > ** Guillaume, **** > > ** ** > > I know that Remedy development is very different from structured or object > programming. But my point is about the quality and possibilities of their > development tools.**** > > ** ** > > I will explain in detail what I consider essential:**** > > ** ** > > ONLINE DEBUG:**** > > There is a tool in Remedy that allows you to debug step by step. But it's > text based. I want to log in in debug mode, that executes normally. Set > breakpoints at some filters. When these filters arrive stop execution, see > the fields values at this particular moment, and continue executing filters > step by step. If this can be done by text, Why is it not possible to do > through dev studio?**** > > ** ** > > UNITARY TEST:**** > > Configure some actions (like creating a request with some values or call a > service action with some values) and program the expected behavior. So when > you run the unitary test the system checks it. Maintaining a library of > unitary tests on your system and reexecuting them at every change, you get > more control. I do it now, with some very complex situations, but I need to > use SOAPUI to call a web service and get the response, checking it to see > if it is valid.**** > > ** ** > > GRAPHICAL ENHANCEMENTS LIKE BLOCKING OR HIDDING:**** > > Set some elements in a view and group them in layers. Then you can easily > hide a layer, but only when editing. Or you can block a layer, to be sure > you can't select it. **** > > ** ** > > ENFORCEMENT OF BEST PRACTICES:**** > > Have a set of best practices configured (like naming convention) and the > system automatically checks them. So if you brake a best practice the > system warms you.**** > > ** ** > > WORK WITH FIELDS NOT IN VIEW:**** > > If you want to reconfigure or change a field that is not present in any > view, then you must add it (where you can't search it from the fieldid, > only by the name) to a view, change it and remove it again from the view.* > *** > > ** ** > > ENHANCED SEARCH:**** > > I can only search elements from one criteria. And the available criteria > is not enough. If I want to list all filters with some word in the name > that are part of a particular application, this is not possible. If I want > to know which filters are used in a particular form, this is not possible > (I can only search for the primary form, but not shared). I want to list > all filters that use a particular field in the qualification, this is not > possible. I have a Remedy form that feeds from the Remedy's data dictionary > that can perform all these searches.**** > > ** ** > > Under my point of view, the developer studio has the minimum set of > feature to allow developing, but it is far from being a good tool.**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Jose Huerta**** > > http://theremedyforit.com/ **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 15:55, Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com> > wrote:**** > > ** **** > > Jose, > > I think some of the points you mention are not applicable in the ARS > world, since as you very well know, ARS is not a 3rd generation language > like java or .net. > The general consensus is that ARS is greater than a 4th generation > language, it's either 4.5 or 5th generation. > As a point of reference PL/SQL and T-SQL are 4th generation languages. > > Therefore you cannot really compare the developer tool of a of 5th > generation language with the developer tool of a 3rd generation language. > We need to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges to make an > objective and rational comparison. > > So... if you are familiar with a 5th generation language's developer tool > and want to compare it with Developer Studio, please go ahead and share > your analysis, the community values them, and hopefully BMC will > incorporate new features in future versions. > > Guillaume**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Jose Huerta [jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:27 AM **** > > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool**** > > ** ** > > ** I think that Developer Studio is not as good as it must be. You all > talk about the great leap made from the admin tool to the developer studio. > But under my point of view it's is like going from a very bad application > to a bad application. **** > > ** ** > > Have you seen other developer studios (like the Microsot's one)? There are > a lot of features missing in the current version that are the basis of > other development environments like:**** > > ** ** > > - Online debugging**** > > - Unitary test**** > > - Graphical blocking of elements (to block some elements and work with > others).**** > > - Enforcement of best practices.**** > > - Search objects: To answer the next questions: What are the active links > that can change one particular field? What filters are associated with a > form (not only the main form, but also as a secondary form)?**** > > ** ** > > It is not a good tool. And the prove of it is that a lot of partners are > providing parallel tools to make things that the developer studio would had > to do.**** > > ** ** > > I work with a 24" panoramic monitor + 22" 4:3 monitor + the 15" laptop > monitor. And I use all three when using the developer studio. For me there > is a waste of space when displaying a filter. All this information can be > reorganized better way. **** > > ** ** > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > > ** ** > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
