JUST REMINISCING… That project was 11 .5 years ago… I remember - because my son was just learning to walk…
And -- what was special about that??? He was walking across a fairly large foyer of a very fancy building -- he was walking towards a very large door to go outside. About 8 misc people were watching to see if this little kid will make it without falling… He got to the door - and a very nice person opened it and smiled nicely - and let my son through… That person was Paul Allen… (I have goosebumps remembering it) -John On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM, John Sundberg <[email protected] > wrote: > So weird - so unexpected -- that you really would not keep a map of (old > name-> new name) when you go and rename your filters… > > (And -- it is not that you would obviously know that you messed stuff up > either) -- as the system will keep working -- but - just be creating "wrong > data"… Which -- is not necessarily found (even in a big system) until a > week later… > > Hence -- restoring is not an option either… > > > Hence -- the project I had. > > > CONCLUSION: It is a bad design - a dangerous design... > > > > -John > > > > > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** >> I agree.. I remember discussing this exact same point a few months or >> perhaps a year ago. Its weird to make a name of a workflow to be used as >> ‘code’ to do a specific task. >> >> But while it is what it is, it would be nice to have a list of such >> ‘special naming conventions’.. >> >> Joe >> >> *From:* John Sundberg <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2012 1:52 PM >> *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Filter names question - `! >> >> ** I think the convention should be "REMOVED"… >> >> Add a flag on Filter -- Run Immediately… >> >> Approx 10 years ago -- I was brought into a big telco project to "fix >> it"…. >> >> After a new developer went through and renamed filters/actlinks to meet a >> nicer naming convention… (to work with BMCs new filtering based on COLON) >> >> Try -- troubleshooting that…. >> >> Old name: >> >> mtc_FindIPAddress`! >> >> New name: >> >> MTC:IP:Find_Address >> >> >> (in a haystack of 2000 filters -- that all got renamed) >> >> (OK - I am exaggerating the situation a bit -- but -- either way -- my >> opinion it is TOO WEIRD to add something to a name - and now it works >> different) >> >> >> -John >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> We are allowed that on Friday :-) >>> >>> This is an interesting thread though.. It would be nice to have a full >>> list of all these small conventions that could affect functionality.. >>> >>> Imagine fat fingering the keyboard (although that’s as likely to happen >>> anytime too soon as as having a snow storm in the middle east) and naming a >>> piece of workflow with these characters and have functionality affected, >>> and not have a clue why.. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: LJ LongWing >>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:30 PM Newsgroups: >>> public.remedy.arsystem.general >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `! >>> >>> Ah...yes, I'll agree that * in a workflow doesn't indicate anything then >>> :)....mis-read the darn post :) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza >>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:13 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `! >>> >>> Dee was asking about the * in the beginning of workflow names.. That in >>> front of workflow is more the work of a developer customizing an OTB >>> app.. >>> >>> While I was aware that the * at the end of field names was just a visual >>> thing for bold fields, I wasn't aware it was because of the section 508 >>> compliance standards.. That’s a good to know and thanks for that info. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: LJ LongWing >>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:06 PM Newsgroups: >>> public.remedy.arsystem.general >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `! >>> >>> The * at the beginning of the field name is a Section 508 compliance >>> thing...it designates to visually impaired people that the field is >>> required >>> >>> http://www.uspto.gov/web/**offices/cio/s508/03web.htm<http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/cio/s508/03web.htm> >>> >>> search for the word 'asterisk' >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dee >>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:27 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Filter names question - `! >>> >>> Thanks Joe, >>> >>> Like John in this post and Sam in "Suggestions" post last week, are >>> these >>> commands/tricks written any where and are there more? >>> >>> >>> Looking at System Forms/Workflow, do these mean anything or just name >>> conventions? >>> >>> 1. (*)At the begin of Name of workflow, ex. (*TS-SI 100 Upper Server) >>> 2. (~!) At the end of name of workflow, ex. (AP:Sig-RecentHistoryDate~!) >>> 3. (`1)At the end of name of workflow, ex. (XR:GetSchemaWorkflow1`1) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ______________________________**______________________________** >>> ___________________ >>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>> attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *John Sundberg* >> Kinetic Data, Inc. >> "Your Business. Your Process." >> *WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award* >> *WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award* >> * >> * >> 651-556-0930 I [email protected] >> www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com >> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> > > > > -- > > *John Sundberg* > Kinetic Data, Inc. > "Your Business. Your Process." > *WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award* > *WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award* > * > * > 651-556-0930 I [email protected] > www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com > > > > -- *John Sundberg* Kinetic Data, Inc. "Your Business. Your Process." *WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award* *WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award* * * 651-556-0930 I [email protected] www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
