Thank you Doug,  that was more than helpful.  I will definitely go to the
manual!

Susan

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Mueller, Doug <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>
> Susan,****
>
> ** **
>
> The AR System supports the localization of applications (whether BMC
> supplied or custom) and all aspects****
>
> of the application.****
>
> ** **
>
> First, you need to understand that there are two different languages in an
> application:****
>
> ** **
>
> DISPLAY language****
>
>      This is the language that the display uses.  It controls the labels,
> selection values, error messages,****
>
>      menus, date/time format, and all other aspects of the display of the
> system OTHER THAN the data****
>
>     content of fields.  This is controlled by user preference settings of
> the locale and number separator****
>
>     and date/time format.  Some of this is automatic. Some relies on the
> user entering various localized****
>
>     versions of messages in a catalog.  Some relies on application VUIs
> being constructed correctly.****
>
> ** **
>
> DATA language****
>
>     This is the language that the data CONTENT of the records are in.
> This is what is IN the various****
>
>     character fields on the system.  This is really controlled by what the
> user types in.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> The system will try to show all the DISPLAY components to each user in
> their local language.****
>
> The system just shows the DATA as it was entered without translation.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> There is a chapter on Localization in the manuals that describes all the
> details of how to localize all aspects****
>
> of the DISPLAY portion of the product.****
>
> ** **
>
> Labels – create alternate VUIs with the same name but different locale and
> change the label property of****
>
>      fields to the new language****
>
> Selection fields – on the alternate VUI, open up the selection field and
> you will find that you can supply****
>
>     alternate words for each of the selection values****
>
> Error messages – there is a catalog form where you enter alternate text
> for any system or any active link,****
>
>     filter, or escalation message so you can translate it to another
> language****
>
> FB strings, and about 15 other things – the message catalog form is used
> for 15 to 20 categories of****
>
>     strings in various areas of the product where you can supply alternate
> versions of the strings for****
>
>     different languages****
>
> Menus – static menus – use the message catalog****
>
> Menus – dynamic menus (query menus) – Use the LOCALE field (not field 112
> which is the row level****
>
>     security field but field (sorry, cannot come up with the field ID
> right now, but it is in the documentation,****
>
>     it is a field in the 100s range).  You can then enter into your source
> of the query data records for each****
>
>     item in each language and the system will pull the right version.  You
> can also use this for Set Fields****
>
>     operations and select the "locale aware" option to pull data for a
> given locale.  I believe the same option****
>
>     is available for table fields in the current releases.  From an API
> program, it is an option you can specify****
>
>    on a GetListEntry or GetListEntryWithFields call to have the system use
> this locale field to return only****
>
>     data from the specified locale.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, all of these things can be localized.  All of these options and
> operations are documented in the****
>
> Localization chapter.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, you can completely localize all aspects of the Display.****
>
> ** **
>
> Take a look at that chapter – probably in the Configuration Guide or
> Administrators Guide.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> NOTE: If you are going to mix data languages, make sure you configure your
> AR System server as a****
>
> UNICODE server (and the DB too) to make sure that it cleanly stores all
> the characters of all different****
>
> languages.  Otherwise, you may have characters get stepped on when using a
> character set that does****
>
> not have proper representation for characters of other languages than the
> character set was****
>
> intended.****
>
> ** **
>
> I hope this helps,****
>
> ** **
>
> Doug Mueller****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:03 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Remedy in Chinese****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Hi Everyone,****
>
>  ****
>
> We have an office in Shenzhen, China that began 3 years ago and at that
> time the staff was small and we were able to hire English speaking/writing
> staff.  No problem.****
>
>  ****
>
> Now that our business is growing there we need to accommodate non-English
> speaking staff.  Also basic things like installations and invoicing require
> exact Chinese spelling and some of that is getting lost in the Chinese to
> English to Chinese translations causing issues.****
>
>  ****
>
> I know that the 'Simplified Chinese' language set is supported but I
> interpret that to mean in field labels.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Does anyone have experience with adding a second language to an existing
> Remedy application?  This would include menus and selection field values.
> Did you have to run two sets of menu and somehow activate the one you want
> dependent on say your locale?  What did you do for selection field values.
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> That leads to database issues and how that is all stored too.****
>
>  ****
>
> The idea is a flavor of follow the sun for support.  If you're in Europe
> or US you see English, if you're in China you see Chinese.  How does that
> happen?  I figure the locale takes care of the labels although I'm not
> really sure how that happens but what about field contents?  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Any experiences you've had would be helpful to know.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> I appreciate your feedback.****
>
>  ****
>
> Susan****
>
>  ****
>
> ARS v7.5p3****
>
> Oracle 10g****
>
> Sun Solaris UNIX ****
>
> Users on Windows XP and 7 64bit****
>
>  ****
>
> *Susan Palmer*****
>
> *Enterprise Remedy Developer and Administrator*****
>
> *ShopperTrak*  Chicago USA****
>
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>
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>
> www.shoppertrak.com****
>
>  ****
>
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