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look at the windows
in task manager ;; Physical memory  (Free), Available.. if nothing is
available. .your in trouble..


On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Goodall, Andrew C <ago...@jcp.com> wrote:

> This is an update from BMC Support:
>
> -------
>
> Here's the resolution to the escalation on this issue:
>
> Please ignore the tag arsystem.ehcache.maxElementsInMemory. This tag is
> ignored when arsystem.ehcache.referenceMaxElementsInMemory is used in
> conjunction with the factors. This tag,
> arsystem.ehcache.maxElementsInMemory is removed in 7.6.04SP3 [though
> installer won't remove it on upgrade because of the confusions).
>
> For your case, if system usage is the same (no increase load in users,
> reports, etc) and you have extra memory you want to use for ehcache, for
> now, it's safe to increase arsystem.ehcache.referenceMaxElementsInMemory by
> 1250 per 700MB. It's your job to guarantee that the OS does not swap when
> you increase memory allocation to JVM as swapping will degrade ANY web
> app's performance. (This is the typo that is being corrected on our
> documentation right now).
>
> -------
>
> I have replied to request whether we should remove the reference to
> "arsystem.ehcache.maxElementsInMemory".
>
> Does anyone have recommendations as to how you would "...guarantee that
> the OS does not swap when you increase memory allocation to JVM"
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Goodall
> Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goodall, Andrew C
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:41 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: RE: arsystem.ehcache.maxElementsInMemory - what whould it be set
> to for full ITSM midtier - box has 12GB memory
>
> Thanks.
>
> This is a 64bit Windows 2008 with 2048MB max heap.
>
> I ask because in the below document for an x64 8GB system with 2500MB Max
> Heap BMC recommend setting that value to 30,000 and
> referenceMaxElementsinMemory is set to 1800
>
> See “Performance and Scalability White Paper”  page 10/77 (mid tier spec)
> and 42/77 (mid tier config) -
> http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/97/70/249770/249770.pdf
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Goodall
> Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com  |
> 972.431.1518
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mark Hodges
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:29 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: arsystem.ehcache.maxElementsInMemory - what whould it be set
> to for full ITSM midtier - box has 12GB memory
>
> There is quite a lot of information about the various parameters in the
> mid tier guide (in the "configuring the mid-tier" chapter, cache settings
> section)
>
> maxElementsInMemory is a total count that is actually ignored in favour of
> referenceMaxElementsInMemory, which seems to be set to 1250 by default and
> gets multiplied by the various factors to determine the count for each type
> of object.
>
> You'll run into an address space limit if you are on a 32 bit JVM
> regardless of the amount of RAM in the box (a little under 3GB on windows
> usually) so you probably aren't going to fit the full ITSM suite in memory
> unless you are running on a 64bit JVM. I read somewhere (in the BSM tuning
> guide I think) that as a rule of thumb for every 750MB of additional heap
> size configured over and above the recommended 1 GB you can increase this
> value by 1250, so that's probably a good starting point.
>
>
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