How drunk were they when the voted "Best Support" to BMC?

Or is it that our expectations are just so low?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:05 AM, John Sundberg <[email protected]
> wrote:

> ** Or….
>
> They had a nice little form pre-installe into ARS that you opened to fill
> out a support ticket…
>
> It asks a few questions -- and then generates all the answers in a format
> that can be sucked into a program on the other side. (you could copy/pasted
> it into the support web site -- or auto push - if you allowed such a thing)
>
> That way - they get all the info they want...
>
> Such an easy problem to solve… Must not be much interest (or vision???) to
> improve support.
>
> BTW -- don't forget BMC did win an award for Best Support at WWRUG last
> year.
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Tommy Morris 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Wouldn’t it be nice if BMC had all of their client’s information on file
>> so you wouldn’t have to list version, OS, etc? Maybe they could have a web
>> portal where clients could log in and update their environment? Possibly
>> the system could have a couple of different environment options such as
>> Dev, QA, Prod and then a client created a support ticket they could select
>> the environment that the issue is being reported upon? Oh! I know! Maybe,
>> just maybe the data could be stored in some sort of configuration
>> management something or other so that the data could be managed easily.
>> Hmmmm…. I wonder if BMC could find a useful tool that could handle that.*
>> ***
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Warren R. Baltimore II
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:43 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Support - An open letter to BMC****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** ****
>>
>> Once again, I have submitted a ticket that has an abundance of
>> information regarding my problem.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> It lists the ARS version and patch****
>>
>> It lists the Server type and OS****
>>
>> It lists the Db and version****
>>
>> It gives a succinct description of the issue****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I then received a response almost 45 minutes later (which I was quite
>> pleased with!  Quick Turn around!)****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> After reading the response, I was tempted to buy a ticket to wherever the
>> hell support was and deliver my feelings in person!****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Response follows:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *Hi Warren,**
>>
>> Thank you for contacting BMC Remedy Support.
>>
>> Our goal at BMC is to provide you with an excellent customer service
>> experience. If for any reason you feel this issue is not progressing
>> properly, please discuss it with me or feel free to contact our Support
>> Manager ************* at ************ <************@bmc.com>@bmc.com
>>
>> I am ********** and I shall be assisting you with this issue.
>>
>> This mail is regarding Issue "ISS03967224"with issue summary as: "I am
>> unable to search for a join of 3 forms utilizing the Request ID field."
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Thanks for the initial information.
>>
>> I tried to call you unfortunately reached VM.
>>
>> In order to fully understand the affected environment and narrow down the
>> possibilities, please address the following for me:
>>
>> 1) What is the AR Server version & Patch level?
>> 2) What is the OS and version that the Remedy environment is installed on?
>> 3) What database and version does the AR Server use? Is it local or
>> remote to the AR Server installation?
>> 4) Have you upgraded your environment? If yes then from which version
>> please specify?
>> 5) Have you done any customization? Please explain?
>> 6) When you are getting the error?
>> 7) What is the exact error message you are getting
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Please send me the information at your earliest, it will help me to
>> investigate issue further.
>>
>> Kindly let me know if you have any concerns on this issue.
>>
>> *
>> My response was blunt:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *With the exception of question 5, I answered EVERY question in the
>> ticket.  **
>>
>> Question 5:  we have not upgraded.
>>
>> As to customization, lightly.  You will notice that this is a join I
>> built!*****
>>
>> ___________________________________________****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> This has been indicative of support for about the last 6 or so years
>> (whenever it was off shored).  Support techs seem to read from a script.
>> Based on what I was seeing, I suspect that this particular tech was reading
>> only the description in a notification and not from the actual support
>> request.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I don't think I blame the techs.  I suspect that they are all hard
>> working people who get lousy pay and little training.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I remember sitting in a hall some years back (San Jose perhaps) and being
>> told by BMC how it was going to be so wonderful when they offshore
>> support.  All of the domestic support people would be moved to different
>> parts of the structure to utilize that wonderful institutional knowledge
>> they had, and the new support staff would be given all the training and
>> support they needed to maintain a high level of support....****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> It hasn't worked out that way.  2 years after BMC pulled the trigger,
>> support was so bad that I ended up in an hour long phone conversation with
>> the individual who was tasked with managing that operation (I wish I could
>> remember his name).  I expressed my concerns and found that for the most
>> part, he agreed with my assessment!  The term he used at the time to
>> describe where BMC had found themselves was that the trigger had been
>> pulled, the deed was done and there was no going back!  So here we are,
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I am not saying that every time I have dealt with support that it is
>> always a disaster, it isn't.  As with any organization, there are bright
>> spots.  Every tech I deal with seems to have a genuine desire to help.  But
>> the process does not work, and the knowledge isn't always what it should
>> be.  And (perhaps the biggest sin in my mind), the tool that they should be
>> using isn't utilized!  Why do we take the time to fill out all of the data
>> in the support request that they request if they are not even going to
>> bother reading it????****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> What's the solution?  I'm not sure.  But the current system isn't working.
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Warren R. Baltimore II****
>>
>> Remedy Developer since ARS 3.2****
>>
>> 410-533-5367****
>>
>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ****
>>  _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Sundberg*
> Kinetic Data, Inc.
> "Your Business. Your Process."
> *WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award*
> *WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award*
> *
> *
> 651-556-0930 I [email protected]
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>
>
>
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>



-- 
Warren R. Baltimore II
Remedy Developer
410-533-5367

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