Joe,
Dave can answer definitively on this, but I got the impression that he is
dealing with non OOTB code...which in that case, should be custom, not base
with an overlay...but I may be mistaken


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> Overlays was one of the first thing I wanted to ask when I read your
> original email but thought I’d wade through the list in case someone
> already pointed that out..****
>
> ** **
>
> You mentioned you want to stay away from overlays. Any specific reasons
> why?****
>
> ** **
>
> Personally I feel it’s a great tool, and not using it might eventually get
> you to a spot where it might be very hard for you to reconcile your system
> to a state where they are actually useful,  in case you’ll eventually do
> decide to use overlays.****
>
> ** **
>
> I see only pros to leveraging the use of overlays, the only con being they
> can be a pain in the rear sometimes (especially with the 7.6.04 version)
> with some of the ‘extra’ steps you need to do in order to even implement a
> small change. But those steps are worth the few extra seconds / minutes you
> spend on them I think.****
>
> ** **
>
> Joe****
>
> ** **
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Shellman, David
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:41 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Question concerning Attachment Pool field
> ****
>
>  ** **
>
> Dale,****
>
> ** **
>
> LJ also noted he reproduced the issue with 8.1 Dev Studio against an 8.1
> server.****
>
> ** **
>
> Dave****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dale Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:00 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Question concerning Attachment Pool field****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> David,
>
> Did you create an overlay for view, each Attachment field , Attachment
> Pool, the destination Page and Tab?
>
> May want to try in Base Mode.
>
> May want to try in a Dev Studio version with the same version as Server.
> (Rule of thumb is newer versions of Dev Studio will try to introduce
> features that Older Version of ARS server will not be aware of and not know
> how to handle.)
>
> Take Care****
>
> ** **
>
> Dale Jones****
>
> DCS****
>
> Raleigh, NC****
>
> 919-523-6034****
>    ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> [email protected]] on behalf of Shellman, David [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:39 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Question concerning Attachment Pool field****
>
> ** ****
>
> Tried that.  You get a message that the form types do not match.****
>
> ** **
>
> Dave****
>
>
> On May 15, 2013, at 12:24 PM, "Julie Sellers" <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
>  ** ****
>
> Dave,
> When you export a form it creates two items for import, the base form and
> the overlay (indicated by the form name with a '.o' extension).
> Could you not export the data, export the form, and then only import the
> base form (basically deleting the overlay)?****
>
> Just a thought...****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* "Shellman, David" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Question concerning Attachment Pool field****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Mark,****
>
>  ****
>
> If someone could verify it’s a version issue or if it’s an issue that also
> exists with 7.6.04 that would be great.****
>
>  ****
>
> We went through several discussions with Jason Miller before we upgraded.
> He was assured by Dev Studio developers that using a newer version is
> backward compatible.****
>
>  ****
>
> We needed to upgrade to 8.1 to get us out of a corner that we had been
> painted into with 7.6.04 Dev Studio.  7.6.04 had several shortcomings once
> an “unmodified” form had an overlay added.  Since the forms were home grown
> from previous versions of the AR System we decided to go to convert them to
> “custom” forms.  7.6.04 Dev Studio does not have the ability to delete an
> Overlay which needs to be done before converting.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Brittain,
> Mark
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Question concerning Attachment Pool field****
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
> Hi Dave,****
>
>  ****
>
> The general rule has always been to use the same version of the
> admin/developer tool as the server version.  So there might be something
> with the 8.1 developer that is not compatible.****
>
>  ****
>
> Mark****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Shellman,
> David
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:51 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Question concerning Attachment Pool field****
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
> I’m seeing something odd with Developer Studio.  Not sure it’s me or
> something with Dev Studio.****
>
>  ****
>
> Using 8.1 Dev Studio against a 7.6.04 server (Windows app server running
> on Oracle).****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> We have a form that has two Attachment Pool fields on the form.  I’m
> attempting to move the fields to a Tab on a page field.  Drag and Drop
> doesn’t seem to allow me to move the fields there.  On a regular field, I
> can right mouse click and use the Move field option.  However with an
> Attachment field, I don’t see that option.****
>
>  ****
>
> I can create a new Attachment pool field on the tab but I can’t seem to
> move an exist one.****
>
>  ****
>
> Am I missing something obvious?****
>
>  ****
>
> Dave****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
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