Do you guys mind if I grab this email thread to be used in Kinetic Request
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-John


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Carl Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hi,****
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> You are correct in that the course material does mention this as:****
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> "Make copies of the workflow that was on the original form. By copying
> this workflow, you retain your copy during upgrades. You only need to
> perform this step one time for each Advanced Interface type form you are
> copying."****
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> You then use this "copied" workflow to add any additional AIF's that you
> build.  This is recommended in a ROD environment.****
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> However, the Guides list the following:****
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> "To avoid migration issues, do *not *copy and rename the workflow that is
> attached to the included advanced interface forms."****
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> I do however mention to students to use the advice in the guides when I
> teach this course, as it is easy to miss key workflow when performing a
> copy.****
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> The easiest way to do a copy is to use a Packing List against the form in
> question to see the related workflow.****
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> There have been times during  a migration when I have missed specific
> workflow in the .def file using Packing Lists, and the quick and dirty
> solution was to export the OOB AIF and related workflow, and import into
> the system (saved hours of work going through what was missed).   ****
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> Making a copy of the workflow takes longer to identify the missing parts
> when doing a migration, but it does preserve the original if it is ever
> updated during an upgrade.****
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> Both ways are valid, but I prefer the association to the original workflow
> as opposed to a copy due to the above situation previously encountered.***
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> Kind Regards,****
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> *Carl Wilson*****
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> http://www.missingpiecessoftware.com/****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn
> *Sent:* 21 May 2013 21:33
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: SRM 7.6 Advanced Interface Forms****
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> ** ****
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> In the Student Guide for BMC Service Request Management 7.6: Administering
> and Configuring on Page A – 28 it says:****
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> “Open BMC Developer Studio and copy the Active Links, Active Link Guides,
> and Filters from the SRS:AdvancedInterface_WithBackendMapping form to your
> new form.****
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> Make copies of the workflow that was on the original form.”****
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> Of course there are several other mistakes in the manual about how to
> create an AIF including references to functionality absent in Developer
> Studio that was in the Administrator Tool.  I hadn’t reviewed the BMC
> documentation because I thought that the class my employer paid a lot of
> money for (which doesn’t even cover AIF, other than mentioning that it is
> discussed in Appendix A) would be of better quality than the documentation
> we get included with our support contract.  Apparently I thought wrong.***
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> Thanks,****
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> *Shawn Pierson *
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> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Carl Wilson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: SRM 7.6 Advanced Interface Forms****
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> ** ****
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> Hi,****
>
> Not sure where you read that, but it is still the practise to copy an
> existing form and relate the existing workflow to your new form.****
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> Kind Regards,****
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>  ****
>
> *Carl Wilson*****
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>  ****
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> http://www.missingpiecessoftware.com/****
>
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Pierson,
> Shawn
> *Sent:* 21 May 2013 14:11
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* SRM 7.6 Advanced Interface Forms****
>
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> ** ****
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> Good morning,****
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> I’m working on my first AIF in several years, and in looking at the
> documentation it appears that the strategy has shifted in how they are to
> be built.  In the past, we were told to use shared workflow and add the new
> AIF to all the existing active links and filters.  In looking at the 7.6
> documentation, it says not to do that, but rather to make copies of the
> workflow.****
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> If this is correct, is there an easy way to do this in bulk?  The only
> thing I can think of is manually exporting .DEF files and editing them,
> which BMC seem to not want us to do.  I’m also not going to waste my time
> manually copying 85 pieces of workflow one at a time.  Is there a better
> way to do this that I’m missing?  I’m trying the editing of the def file at
> the moment but I know that can be a hassle too, just much less of one than
> doing a one at a time copy.****
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> Thanks,****
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>
> *Shawn Pierson *
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> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer****
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