Nominations have always been restricted to one per category. If the other person\people is\are worthy of nomination, others will nominate them. Seemed strange to me when someone nominated a person and then didn't vote for them too, but it is the persons choice.
For the BMC Employee: Sure, to be eligible they need to be employed by BMC as of 3rd of July to be nominated for BMC Beyond the Call of Duty. They have to still be employed by BMC when they are nominated. They don't have to still be an employee to receive the Award. I have never placed a restriction on how long ago you left BMC to be nominated for MVP, that is new ground. There was a round of BMC layoffs a couple of months ago. May I believe. So someone may have done most contributions for 8 months as an employee, and 4 as not. I will leave it to the good judgement of the court of ARSlist nominators and voters, by nominating or not, voting for or not, for those that were and aren't BMC Employees that fall into that category (I can think of one person in particular I expect this to apply to). Personally I think a contribution of someone that was clearly to the benefit of the ARSlist, i.e. the BMC Remedy community, should be recognized one way or another so I am not inclined to get very technical on the rules around it. Those rules that do exist were created after a few years when a company did try to stack the deck in it's favour, and I did not consider that in the spirit of the ARSlist, so I added rules to avoid what they did. It is also the only year I voted. Daniel p.s. and don't forget, we accept suggestions for other categories of Awards as well, keep them positive. Not "greatest number of silly questions in one year" (the record was 25+ in two days; I tried to help the person by phoning her to say she is welcome to continue asking the list but suggested reading the manual that would answer them all and she screamed at me how dare I call and suggest she read the manual, I have phoned no one since, but I digress) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: July 6, 2013 1:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG/ARSlist Awards 2013: Nominations for MVP etc. and New Categories now open ** In my opinion, that person should have left BMC Software during the same period that a new subscriber is eligible to vote, so since its 3rd of July 2013 for a new ARS Lister to be eligible to vote this year, then a candidate previously in employment with BMC Software should have left BMC before 3rd July 2013 as well to be eligible. IF not that date then some reasonable date that is in some way related to the voting eligibility date to keep the rule consistent every year. Joe _____ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, Lj Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: WWRUG/ARSlist Awards 2013: Nominations for MVP etc. and New Categories now open ** There is 1 Nomination, and one Vote per person. Each nomination from each independent person, this year needs to come with a paragraph of sorts describing WHY they feel the person in question deserves to be the 2013 MVP. All nominations need to go to the aforementioned email address And the rule has always been that you cannot work for BMC and be nominated...and I assume the person in question is no longer an employee...I'm not entirely sure about the rules regarding this...not sure we have come across a rule regarding this in the past...I'll let Daniel decide, unless I get to decide because I'm running this thing this year Daniel? On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net <mailto:jdso...@shyle.net> > wrote: ** Then that person probably more than deserves to run as a nominee / candidate for that award :) About the number of people one person could nominate, it used to be 3 right? So nominations were not restricted to just 1 candidate per person - right? So we had a debate about continuing this tradition last year and many of us thought we should. Many of you who are generally silent viewers, supported this and promised to actively take part in the nomination / voting process if it were continued. And it has been decided to be continued. It doesn't take a lot of time to vote - and even lesser time to nominate as you already know who your favorite posters who post quality stuff are.. So please participate! Personally I think it's a great incentive and recognition for those who provide us with a wealth of information here free of charge. Not many things these days of substantial value come free. And yet this list seems to defy that unwritten law of economics which is if it's valuable - it can't be free. Let this be your way of contributing even though you might not otherwise actively participate on this list. Cheers Joe _____ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> ] On Behalf Of Rick Westbrock Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 5:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: WWRUG/ARSlist Awards 2013: Nominations for MVP etc. and New Categories now open I had the same question in the back of my head Joe, probably for the same reason. ;) ___________________________ Rick Westbrock QMX Support Services From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> ] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 14:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: WWRUG/ARSlist Awards 2013: Nominations for MVP etc. and New Categories now open ** Oh good to see it back! I don't remember if we could nominate more than one - I know we have to vote for just one. But in the event of an opinion where 2 people deserve a nomination, is that allowed? Also in the past I recall a BMC / Remedy employee could not be nominated. IF that person at the time of the nomination is no longer a BMC employee, is he / she eligible to be nominated as a MVP? Joe _____ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:10 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: WWRUG/ARSlist Awards 2013: Nominations for MVP etc. and New Categories now open ** Daniel has chosen to do things a bit differently this year. He has decided to let the incumbent MVP, that's me this year, run the Awards. This is the 18th Annual ARSlist Awards, Call For Nominations. These awards were created by Daniel in 1995 to recognize the efforts of posters asking questions, those providing answers, and sometimes even of those providing what is titled as Friday Humor, and even sometimes gets a laugh. It was also to provide posters an incentive to keep providing those excellent technical replies and perhaps improve the quality of the jokes (but that doesn't seem to ever happen). The Rules for Nominations and some General Rules: * An individual wishing to submit a nomination for MVP must also provide a short description of WHY they deserve to be MVP for the nomination to be considered (this is a change from previous years requiring two independent nominations) * The years postings are somewhat reviewed to ensure that this is someone who posts quality answers. ( Not that anyone has ever been rejected on this basis) * Only those that have registered on the ARSlist before July 3rd 2013 will be eligible to vote. It is assumed you won't vote if you haven't been around long enough to know the posters in question. In the unlikely event of another tie, the person or product with the greatest number of sources of votes will be declared winner. If it is still a tie, a panel of past winners will convene to break the tie. * Voting and nominating is by the Individual REAL person, so redistribution lists don't vote, your identity must be known, and those that have multiple subscriptions still get only one vote * BMC Software employees on the ARSlist are eligible to vote * All decisions of Daniel or the oversight panel are final (if a controversial decision is needed, 3 past MVP winners will be asked for their opinion) * Nominations posted to the list are not accepted, they must be to arslistawa...@wwrug.com <mailto:arslistawa...@wwrug.com> * Votes posted to the list are not accepted, they must be to arslistawa...@wwrug.com <mailto:arslistawa...@wwrug.com> * Any MVP from the last 5 years and anyone from the WWRUG committee are not eligible for nomination Past MVP [Most Valuable Poster Award] recipients are: --------------------- 2012 LJ LongWing 2011 Misi Mladoniczky 2010 Joe D'Souza 2009 Dr. Christopher Strauss 2007 Rick Cook ---- 2006 Axton Grams 2005 Tim Widowfield 2004 Matt Reinfeldt 2003 Carey Matthew Black 2002 Chris Woyton 2001 Gidd Calden 2000 Jarl Groneng, Tommy Nijem 1999 Rick Cook 1998 Raymond Leach 1997 Vicky Bayol 1996 Joel D. Sender 1995 Martin Nystrom So, the two open categories are.... ----------------------------------------------------- *MVP - Most Valuable Poster. This is the person you feel has contributed the most to the list in a combination of quality and quantity. Anyone who has won the award in the last 5 years, current BMC or BMC Remedy employees are not eligible. An individual must be nominated by at least two independent sources. ------------------------------------------------ BMC Software Employee: Beyond the Call of Duty Award (Note, they must be a current employee to qualify) Again, an individual must be nominated by at least two independent sources. ------------------------------------------------ Nominations for other Categories are also open until July 21st Nominate a potential winner for another Category while you suggest the category if you wish [no Nominations, no Award will be conferred in that category there must be more than one Nomination for a category etc.] Please send nominations to arslistawa...@wwrug.com <mailto:arslistawa...@wwrug.com> Software categories are currently being handled by on-site Awards at WWRUG with the vendors in the Showcase being eligible. The ARSlist Awards are not currently contemplating software categories. Time Lines: July 3rd : This message is posting opening Nominations July 21st : Nominations for MVP and other categories close July 22nd: Voting begins for 4 weeks for MVP and other categories August 18th: The voting closes at 5 p.m. EST Thursday October 3rd at WWRUG13: Award Ceremony during the WWRUG Awards keynote. [no one knows the winner(s) until then, well okay, except me and the plaque company] Please send nominations to arslistawa...@wwrug.com <mailto:arslistawa...@wwrug.com> Thanks _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
